Let's Talk 24: "So What You're Telling Me Is..."

6/3/2014

We're halfway though "24: Live Another Day," so has this miniseries won Brad over?

NeoNick

6/3/2014 12:07:48 pm

I'm in the same boat as you Brad. I watched all 8 seasons even when the last three were just not up to par with what the show once was. I was excited though to watch this season, but after 4 episodes I had seen enough. I can't be bothered to watch this show when they didn't bring anything new to the table. How do you come back from a 4 year hiatus with this mediocre reheated version of the same crap?!? Very sad.

Nick Michalak

6/3/2014 12:41:05 pm

If you're looking for something to watch, and you haven't already seen it, I think you'd really enjoy "White Collar." Very fun show. And yeah, "Hannibal" is fucking wicked! Best season finale of the year!

LucasChad

6/3/2014 01:23:17 pm

It was pretty daring the way they ended the second season of Hannibal. Lecter getting away clean free and is on a plane ride with his psychologist (Gillian Anderson) that is like the end of the 2001 Hannibal film only much better. I'm actually hoping that Will Graham be the only survivor of the massacre because he's still the perfect rival/frenemy to Hannibal much like in the novel Red Dragon!

James

6/3/2014 12:41:56 pm

Oorah Chesty

Daniel Jo

6/3/2014 12:48:10 pm

I watched a bit of an episode at my parents' place. The hamfisted acting and terribly overlyused tropes by themselves turned me off. At best I was laughing at the ridiculousness of it all. At worst, I wanted to tell my parents I had to go home early. :/ Modern crime drama on TV is terribly executed. I can still enjoy old Law & Order episodes (the original series), but that's it.

RandyPan

6/3/2014 12:59:44 pm

I'm currently watching the most recent season of Doctor Who. Then, I'll probably watch Series 10 of Red Dwarf. I've got a lot to catch up on.

LloydFan

6/3/2014 01:21:25 pm

I like how he says Veelogs instead of Vlogs.

Mozdoc

6/3/2014 01:51:18 pm

The cap is off the drink. Is he going to drink? He's going...he's going... Aaaaahhh-nope.

And there's the drink again. He's almost...almost...! Nope, not taking a drink.

The bottle is tipping, almost... ALLLLLLMOST! NOOOO!

Three minutes and forty seconds of wavering that open bottle around. The anticipation was just killing me.

--Mozdoc

Timo

6/24/2014 08:59:31 am

To me it looks like it's only at 7:10 when he actually takes the first sip.

brent lonkey

6/3/2014 02:07:39 pm

if you have streaming Netflix, you should be watching house of cards.

hell, hemlock grove wasn't too bad.

or for cable check put fargo. billy bob is insane on this show.

Longmire has a new season, just watch it to see katee sackoff lust after a grizzly old man.

SamJ

6/3/2014 02:51:12 pm

Eh. Might as well check out "Chuck", Brad!

dse

6/3/2014 05:36:30 pm

"characters just do things because they're fucking stupid in this. Because, I don't know, because they want to prove that they have the biggest dick in the world"

Yeah, because that'ss soooo unrealistic, right Brad?

dr_game0ver

6/3/2014 08:59:46 pm

You've just describe the plot of GOT

SamJ

6/4/2014 06:20:32 am

Yeah. It is. You don't get into pissing contests when fighting international terrorism.

John K

6/5/2014 03:49:14 am

I don't think Brad's criticism was a realism issue.

Erin

6/3/2014 06:22:45 pm

Who all from Team Snob is going to be at Anime Midwest?

Rathkor

6/4/2014 03:38:12 am

Brad, Check out Agents of SHIELD. Bill Paxton shows up in the last 3rd. I imagine you'll love the "I'm here to have some fun" acting style he brings to the show.

Trent

6/5/2014 05:53:02 am

Hey guys, I found it! ;D

Rathkor

6/6/2014 05:28:10 am

found what?

6/4/2014 04:40:25 am

Brad, you have got to watch Fargo. If you love Hannibal and True Detective as much as you say you do, you will love the fuck out of Fargo. Martin Freeman, and especially Billy Bob Thorton, are god damn fucking fantastic!
It has two episodes left, so I'd recommend just binge watching the ten episodes in a row when the season wraps. Fargo's up there with the aforementioned shows as my current favorites on TV, probably one of the best shows on right now.

Craig

6/4/2014 05:10:16 am

I'm on the same boat Brad. I binged watched all 8 seasons beforehand cause I only started watching around season 5 and so far, this mini series has been terrible. It seemed like from the interviews that they were going to at least play around with the gimmick and create a more concise story, so I'm wondering where that is and why they put out this shit. It's one of the things that made me want to start blogging about why do I like 24, but now it's me wondering why instead of defending it like I thought it would be. Although what could save this would be if it goes into something like the end of season 8 (minus the ending)

David link

6/4/2014 06:59:33 am

Am I the only one getting a "Sorry, this episode is temporarily unavailable. Please try again later." message on this.

I wanted to have Brad ranting about shitty 24 in the background while I drank whiskey and played SNES Alien 3. Fucking Blip.

Vincent

6/4/2014 07:46:23 am

Brad, I thought you said you didn't have a Netflix account?

LloydFan

6/4/2014 08:33:04 am

He does "The Random Button" so obviously he must?
Unless he stole Jake's account.

Kiwi

6/4/2014 10:29:28 am

Is he still doing The Random Button? I know he took a break to do the Dusk 'Til Dawn podcast, but is it coming back?

LloydFan

6/4/2014 12:11:33 pm

I don't know but he needs to stop reviewing mediocre TV shows and go back to The Random Button & 80's Dan

John K

6/5/2014 03:47:27 pm

I believe we have twitter confirmation there will be a new Random Button episode.

Source: https://twitter.com/thecinemasnob/status/474634587029516290

Nathan

6/4/2014 08:40:07 am

So that makes it impossible that he would ever get one?

John K

6/5/2014 03:44:11 am

Brad LIED to us!

Seriously, though, when did he ever say that? Does it matter?

devilmikey

6/4/2014 02:39:56 pm

I'm with brad on never really wanting to go back and rewatch 24 with the exception of season 5. That season is fucking awesome. The only season that had compelling villains (Logan/Peter Weller) The BEST opening episode of any season and with the exception of the presidents wife subplot, it's mercifully without padding compared to other seasons. It's just fun TV.

Travis S

6/4/2014 04:16:50 pm

Yeah, 24 lost me a long time ago, though I watched all the way up to Tony's turning point, then turning point, then turning point, blah blah blegh.

I have to jump on the wagon with those who have recommended Fargo. It's well written, and has that Coen charm.

Other procedural drama shows I've enjoyed that others may find enjoyable are (Besides the obvious Breaking Bad, True Detective, and Game of Thrones): Hell on Wheels, House of Cards, Sons of Anarchy (this latest season finale was amazing), Hannibal, Rectify, and one I REALLY recommend: Boardwalk Empire. Brad, seriously, watch Boardwalk Empire if you haven't. That is an order.

Drama shows are kinda my thing. I try to catch as many as I can. Since Breaking Bad, I been chasing that ol drama dragon.

el preparao

6/4/2014 09:02:40 pm

I watched season 4 recently for the first time and this terrorist family definitely feels like a throwback to that. Everything they do is so Jack can catch them. They can't just wait a couple more hours until their plans are finished, and have this compulsion to murder innocents who suspect absolutely nothing, "just in case", which backfires horribly.

In S4 they used the son to drive a car to the terrorists' hideout and drop a suitcase, with the excuse that "he's a kid, so no one will notice him", even though there wasn't anyone around that area to begin with. But because they had been forcing him to act suspiciously towards his girlfriend, she tails him thinking she's with another girl. Even though she doesn't suspect anything, they decide to kill her because "now she knows where they are". Even more, they decide THE SON has to kill her personally. Of course this wouldn't put the plan at risk or turn him against them or anything. So they end up killing her, and now the girl's mother is looking for her, and they want to kill her too. Eventually the father decides he needs to kill his own son as well, which turns both him and his mother against the organization.

It's going to be difficult to top all that stupidity, though they are certainly trying.

John K

6/5/2014 03:47:50 am

I totally agree with you about A&E lumping shorter seasons together. Breaking Bad did the same thing with "Season 5" which was really Seasons 5 and 6 both consisting of eight episodes.

If we go by that logic, Power Rangers Season 1 must have really been five separate seasons considering it was sixty episodes long.

TrangleC

6/5/2014 06:47:32 am

In this "new golden age of TV", as people call it, there are a lot of deceptive shows out there who look like they are part of this new, better kind of TV show, but really aren't.

The best example in my opinion is "Californication".

That show looks good and it has a mostly good cast and there is all this T&A in it that makes it seem more daring and cutting edge than it really is. Behind the brass veneer it is a very bad, poorly written, lame show, which without the nudity could have been from the early 90s.

There is always the same shit happening and there is about as much character development as in a Saturday Morning Cartoon from the 80s.

The biggest problem is that the show never explains why the main character, this guy who apparently could have any woman in Los Angeles, is so obsessed with this boring, not very attractive, one dimensional ex wife of his. The show always tells you that she is this great prize for which he would give up all the pussy in the world but it never bothers showing us why. The character is just this typical dull shy girl that hangs around in the background with the cool kids and laughs at their jokes and has nothing to contribute but gets dragged along out of pity or obligation and tradition. Yet, this dumb show revolves around this breathing McGuffin.

I really don't understand why this show keeps on going and hasn't been canceled years ago. I stopped watching it half way into the 4th season or so and I only made it that long because I couldn't believe they kept pulling the same shit over and over and wouldn't try anything new.

Steven

6/5/2014 11:38:58 am

I watched all of 24 out of obligation just like you, and because of tha then I've just stopped watching shows when I feel they've gone stale or just lost my interest. I quit watching Homeland when it started to feel like 24 during season 2. I quit Walking Dead when I realised the writing was never going to improve. I won't be watching this new season of 24.

Nathan

6/7/2014 05:51:18 pm

Someone mentioned Agents of SHIELD. Meh, that show took too long to get to the point and start being the kind of show we were promised.

Though Brad, Bill Paxton playing a cartoonish supervillain. He is having the TIME OF HIS LIFE in Agents of SHIELD, his line delivery is like if he's living his dream of being a live action cartoon. So there's that.

Now out of comic based shows, Arrow is kind of really surprising me. It started off pretty bad but by the end of season 1 it's totally worth it and season 2 keeps the momentum going. Can't wait for season 3 and Flash to come out.

Rathkor

6/12/2014 06:02:51 pm

So, "Agents of Shield had a bad season 1 but got good at the end" warrants a "Meh", but "Arrow started out bad but got good at the end of season 1" is "totally worth it"?

I'm just saying, a lot of shows, even some of the greats, had rocky first seasons. But a lot of people seem willing to just give up on Agents of Shield without giving it a chance to grow, but then recommend a show that has already gotten past its rough spot.

Faiya

6/8/2014 01:08:45 am

I remember when everyone in my middle school (Yes, middle school) watched 24. I never wanted to but I know the feeling of watching something out of obligation. I stuck with Law and Order for a long time basically because of Jerry Orbach, Jessie L. Martin, and Sam Waterston. But when Martin took a year off to film RENT, I was done. My favorite characters were gone or stuck talking to Fred Thompson every episode.

I watched the series finale out of obligation, but it ended up being a really good, dramatic episode, and had some great Jack McCoy and Antia Van Buren moments. Would I watch the entire last season? Fuck no. I just tell myself the show ended when Jerry Orbach left and the finale was just a made-for-tv follow-up film put out years later to give us closure. Maybe 24 should have done that instead, reflecting on how the nation deals with all the shit from the previous seasons instead of just moving it to Britain.

If I wanted to watch Kiefer Sutherland torture people I'll stick to MGSV, thank you VERY MUCH.

MasterSeijin

6/17/2014 07:24:36 am

"Everyone's trying to prove that they have the biggest fucking dick in the world."

Well...yeah, Brad. Didn't you know? That's how the real world works nowadays. It's fucking bullshit to be sure, but it's fact.

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