Goodbye Blip

7/21/2015

As many of you already know, Blip TV is closing its doors on August 20th. I've been working with Blip for the past 6 years, and my time with them has been great, and I'm certainly going to miss posting my stuff with them. Without Blip's help, we wouldn't have been able to do a lot of the projects that we've done over the years, and we certainly wouldn't have been able to build up our library as big as it's become.

So what does this mean for us and our videos? Nothing major really, it just means that there's going to be a very very long process of changing the embeds on the site, plus we'll be converting our back catelogue to our new youtube page, which you can find here. Please subscribe to our new page, even if you don't plan on watching them on youtube. The more subscriptions we get, the more awesome stuff we can do with that page. For the time being, you'll still see our new episodes on Blip. As far as what's going to happen post-Blip closing its doors, rest assured we'll be moving into another home shortly.

Our workflow is still the same, I'm still working on a new Snob episode this week, and we've still got the Midnight Screenings, plus the premiere of "Lloyd" coming up towards the weekend. Until then, look for us in the remaining month of Blip, as well as our backlog's new home on YouTube.

80 Comments

Meister

7/21/2015 10:27:58 am

Why did you use Blip to host your videos?

Kerrigen

7/21/2015 11:00:07 am

easy question.
he originally started on youtube, and then got copyright banned, with spoonys help he moved to blip and got hosted there till he could start his own website, thus why the two fan bases get along and are favorably bias twords each other

alidan

7/21/2015 11:48:58 am

blip has real people to talk to and no automated systems, so no bullshit copyright crap to worry about, youtube is a fucking nightmare if you want to go fair use.

bobson

7/21/2015 07:38:41 pm

Well at least the midnight reviews are safe there.

vcxv

7/22/2015 12:39:06 pm

Brad knows his cinemasnob reviews aren't fair use. Why do you think he only sells the public domain reviews on DVD?

7/24/2015 05:38:12 am

Actually vcxv, they are fair-use, but part of fair-use is you can't make money from it. So if he was selling them they would stop being fair-use.

vcxv

7/24/2015 07:27:16 am

Fair use is a defense in court. If somebody wanted to sue Brad and take it all the way to trial, he'd have to convince a Jury that his videos are fair use, while the other side (copyright holder) argues that his videos are infringement. Him selling the reviews on DVD would certainly be a factor if Brad lost the case and the Jury or Judge was deciding the damages. Or in a more likely scenario, they would settle and Brad would probably owe several thousand dollars.

Whether he would loose the case or not is debatable. I tend to think he would loose because his videos are basically him riffing copyrighted movie clips. I don't think they meet enough criteria for fair use.

But it's pointless to debate this with you. You've obviously not a lawyer, don't work in the entertainment industry, and are completely ignorant of how copyright laws work. In my personal opinion, Brad should be paying royalties to the copyright holders of the movies he "reviews" since his whole show is based around content he doesn't own. It's a shame you can make a movie and some guy can take your work and profit from it without giving you a dime.

If you take a song and use it in a movie without licensing it, the artist can easily prove copyright infringement. It's ridiculous that somebody can steal movie clips and use them freely as long as they call it a "review". It's a riff show, plain and simple. (and I won't even get into the songs Brad steals for his movies)

Sorry kid but licensing content is the way the entertainment industry works. The only reason Brad gets a way with it is because nobody want to spend money fighting it in court and Brad probably has no assets or money to make it worthwhile. Now lets see if he deletes this comment to sweep this topic under the rug.

Brad

7/24/2015 08:21:48 am

This Diet Sunkist tastes delicious, you can really taste the oranges. And the best part, it's zero calories.

LostAlone

7/25/2015 03:03:18 am

Sorry VCXC but 'review' isn't a legal term (and for good reason) and all critique is totally protected by fair use. It's one of the primary reasons that fair use exists. It does't matter what style or form your critique takes, whether it's funny or serious or surreal or even really crappy, the law would protect you as a reviewer as long as the judge believes there is some legitimate critical value to what you made with no requirements of originally or quality, simply that you gave an opinion. That is just how it is.

Copyright holders know it too. No company is insane enough to try and bring a case that's directly against precedent and the letter of the law. That's not just a case that you'll lose, that's the kind of case that'll get kicked pre-trial and the lawyers bringing it sanctioned.

Distributing a copyrighted work in whole (or in large part) without licence is very different. The law has held up the idea that something can't be fair use if it shows the whole piece. Not even Roger Ebert can show a whole movie and talk over it and claim fair use as a review even if it IS all critique. Neither can MST3k by the way; they had to licence all their movies for exactly that reason, even though their work was hugely transformative.

The bottom line is that Brad doesn't owe anyone anything. He's a reviewer with his own style and his own approach but certainly still a reviewer. You don't have to own content to criticize it. That's an absolute protection under law. The idea that reviewers have to licence a movie clip to tell an audience that it's horrible is abhorrent to the idea of free speech.

vcxv

7/25/2015 06:30:36 am

Fair use is not that cut and dry. The case would center around:

The amount of clips Brad used and the length of the clips
The effect on the potential market for the work
Benefit to the public

The cinema snob show is basically Brad re-editing a movie into a cliffnotes version and riffing it. By using every interesting scene and summarizing the whole plot, you can make the argument that the viewer now has no reason to see the actual movie

Again, it's not cut and dry and would mostly be up to a judge. I think Brad uses far too much content to win on fair use. By calling his riff show a review, he is simply hiding behind the facade of critique so he can game the system to produce and profit from a show the built around content he doesn't have to license.

His movie soundtracks are proof that he has no problems with infringing copyright. You think he's going to act in an ethical manner when it comes to his flagship show?

Brad

7/25/2015 11:05:54 am

These french fries are a little cold, but they're still getting the job done. The ketchup is helping.

Milan

7/21/2015 10:33:11 am

Looking forward to seeing the new videos being hosted on pornhub...wait, what they have an all nudity policy? Only in america!!!

Generic Internet Commenter

7/21/2015 12:41:11 pm

Sweet, no more black box'd Cinema Snob episodes!

Jeff

7/21/2015 10:34:55 am

I've noticed a lot of creators moving away from blip like Red Letter Media, didn't know were closing until now.

Zach krishef

7/21/2015 10:36:44 am

RIP, Blip. You will be missed.

7/22/2015 03:37:43 am

Especially because now we have to deal with YouTube again.

jegsimmons

7/22/2015 05:38:25 am

This is why Disney as a company is cancer

Arthur Dent

7/26/2015 08:47:13 am

Fucking hypocrite. Every video he posted was followed by a "fuck you Blip" comment up until now

grmpf

7/21/2015 10:39:22 am

For a moment, I was hoping you had revived the thecinemasnob or the StonedGremlin account on YouTube. Now that would've been a throwback! (And I just don't like the new, cryptic channel URLs. Yeah, I'm a YouTube grandpa, I realise that...)

Alec link

7/22/2015 07:12:25 am

Channel URLs can still be aliased. They just use the long names in their internal links.

Jake S

7/22/2015 05:01:20 pm

That's what I thought when I read this, because his old YouTube channel has the videos from 2007 to 2009 reposted. I guess it must have to do with this switchover.

Jodi D.

7/27/2015 04:51:19 pm

I heard recently you have to have the Youtube given account name for 3 months until you can change it to what you want.

BradTriesBrad

7/21/2015 10:52:17 am

damn it Blip!!

Hunter Daniel Bruton link

7/21/2015 11:01:47 am

So what does this mean for the Snob videos (such as Nail Gun Massacre) that have been removed from YouTube? If any of the reuploaded videos are removed, or worse, if your account is closed down, do you have a backup plan?

Traffic

7/21/2015 11:23:55 am

Noooo. Now I'll just looking silly wearing my blip brand headphones.

Baby Cakes

7/21/2015 11:35:08 am

Good news, the "B" on the side stands for "Beats" not "Blip"

Dylan

7/21/2015 11:33:52 am

Wow this is a shock for me.

Dylan

7/21/2015 11:35:44 am

Well Youtube...get ready....THE ONE AND ONLY BRAD JONES IS COMING!

Terrence Cain

7/21/2015 11:41:54 am

James Rolfe moved away from Blip many many years ago. He's been using Springboard, or was cause I'm not sure what he used in 2015, because the treat their customers better, so it's not a big loss to see Blip go. Besides there's also Dailymotion too. Blip had it coming. They got stupid, began kicking low raters like Oddity Archive off their site, and censorship through the roof got super ridiculous in my opinion. YouTube could be next if they don't watch themselves. If you're an up and coming video promoter following in the footsteps of Blip do yourselves a favor. Fight for free speech, and never censor. You can put a rating, a warning, but never censor. Leave open a PayPal donate button, make advertisers pay fairly, and don't kick low raters off just cause you think it's a good business model.

Dana Nichols

7/23/2015 02:31:23 am

Honestly Oddity Archive shouldn't be a low rater. That show is fuck interesting as hell yo.

Terrence Cain

7/23/2015 10:48:34 am

I agree Dana. But that's the letter Blip sent to the Oddity Archive awhile back. The host talked about it on the Oddity Archive Facebook page.

LucasChad

7/21/2015 11:51:34 am

I'm more mad about Hannibal being cancelled than losing Blip, so this doesn't surprise me too much. Just subscribed to the YT page though I'm wondering if it's possible to reupload all the Snob episodes despite the copyright problems including the loss of Believe It or Not?

Darkglobe

7/21/2015 12:03:01 pm

Brad, do you have your videos backed up in case Youtube take them down because of copyright?

JayRam

7/21/2015 12:21:08 pm

Reading about you having been with Blip for 6 years reminded me of how long I've been coming to this site. Christ, the years are flying by.

Looking forward to "Lloyd". From the clip I saw, it appears to be a huge improvement on what was done with Gameboys: The Animated Series. That show felt a little off, for some reason.

Noremac

7/21/2015 12:26:45 pm

What about old videos?

Generic Internet Commenter

7/21/2015 12:36:40 pm

If I remember correctly he has another youtube account with some of the old cinema snob episodes uploaded.

Katie G

7/21/2015 12:27:50 pm

I just want there to be a place where the loading and going back and forth won't be a bitch (Like the server Linkara has) and Copyright WON'T be an issue (like YOUTUBE!!!).... Man, this sucks.....

Generic Internet Commenter

7/21/2015 12:38:16 pm

In all honesty we saw this coming. Blip was basically created to ignore copyright issues.

Moonman

7/21/2015 12:47:21 pm

And give Nostalgic Critic money.

snobfan

7/21/2015 12:45:29 pm

what is the name of your youtube page

Alex Meyer

7/21/2015 02:25:58 pm

It's called Stoned Gremlin Productions

Gades

7/21/2015 12:57:35 pm

Brad - best you talk with the other Channel Hosts to become a youtube group.

Sergeant343

7/22/2015 03:46:35 am

They kindof are with the League of Super Critics and the Channel Awesome Youtube channel. Plus, Youtube is not the best place for movie reviews, for several of NC's reviews have been taken down.

Dreki

7/21/2015 12:58:49 pm

Guess you're using savevideo.me for downloading your videos on Blip. Or did they offer you a better way?

ForgeLock, the Warforged Warlock.

7/22/2015 12:06:52 am

I'm pretty sure Brad has local backups of all his stuff, so no need to go to a 3rd party downloader.

Martin

7/21/2015 01:26:19 pm

Shit Brad, I'm worried with copyright issues relating your use of songs and stuff on the older Snob videos. are you going to edit them all?
also, isn't your Halloween 2 video from League of Super Critics' down for "copyright infringment"?

Barry The Master Of Sandwich

7/21/2015 01:46:17 pm

Anyone who's been paying attention has known for several months that Blip was going away. The final indication was when Doug moved over to the new service that he's currently using.

I thought maybe everyone leaving Blip could also be because the site hasn't been paying anyone, which made me further wonder why Brad was still using it. I figured, "Maybe he's just loyal, or something."

Anyway, I hope all works out well with the YouTube move for Brad. I know that copyright strikes come very easily over there. Mike J and a handful of others appear to have been able to make the transition fine. Then again, most of what Mike J does now doesn't include clips of stuff.

The Nostalgia Critic's Jurassic World review is, I think, a good indication of what will eventually end up happening with him. Red Letter Media and Midnight Screenings are also things that should work quite well on YouTube.

Consider me subscribed.

MTRodaba2468 link

7/21/2015 01:57:06 pm

Just subscribed to the new channel, can't say I'm too surprised about Blip's fate (especially since NC started using Screenwave). Hopefully everything works out, with it being a smooth transition...

nancysnightmare

7/21/2015 02:08:49 pm

Subscribed! Good luck to you guys, I'm glad to see this unfortunate turn of events hasn't stopped you guys from doing what you do best.

sbkMulletMan

7/21/2015 02:21:00 pm

Wait, does this mean the old theme song (and any other licensed music) will have to be edited out of the old episodes for the youtube channel?

Well, that being said, this website, and my viewership, sure have come a long way since the day Spoony features one or two of your videos on his site...for one thing, the Yetis got a whole lot creepier, and you lost a metric fuck-ton of weight! Those were from the 10-minute limit days of Youtube. For all I know, it's because of Blip that the Snob was able to go beyond that limit during those days.

I think we need a special funeral episode for Blip. Maybe Josh "Snob's Dick" Hadley can give the eulogy.

Alex Meyer

7/21/2015 02:32:13 pm

Several questions Brad:

1. When you get the new video embedding system installed for the site, will all the old Cinema Snob, Midnight Screening, Brad Tries, and Miscellaneous Vlog episodes still be on here?

2. On the new YouTube page, will all those various episodes be on there as well as sorted into playlists?

RandyPan

7/21/2015 02:43:28 pm

Those "Your video will start in thirty seconds" buffers came back to bite them in the ass.

WesleyFoxx

7/21/2015 03:20:15 pm

I don't know what you're talking about, because I used Blip to actually *support* content creators by letting the ads play. And I'm glad I did, I wouldn't find Some Jerk With a Camera's skits related to them so hilarious otherwise.

RandyPan

7/21/2015 03:24:23 pm

It's a joke. Calm down. Have some dip.

The Hand of Onan

7/21/2015 07:41:06 pm

I blame Craig Golightly and his Heaven's Gate Review.

LloydFan

7/22/2015 12:55:18 am

The Man of Steel review is what really did them in.

The Hand of Onan

7/22/2015 01:56:18 am

No he blew all of the internet gold on The Heaven's Gate Review. History repeating itself. Blip gave the so called genius Craig Golightly total artistic control and what he do? He built an exact replica of Springfield in 2015 when he already was in Springfield in 2015, then paid a Christopher Walken impersonator more than it cost to hire the real Christopher Walken and was taking anything up to 70 takes of his own arch replies. And that's before you factor in the untold deaths of countless chickens in a stunt that wasn't even on screen. Brad Jones is blameless. He simply reviewed a MOS in an honest and professional manner and now he has to live off the charity random women he meets on line. His only mistake was to believe in the so called genius of so called genius Craig Golightly, who is even now planning an a 8 part review of Ishtar. in collaboration with a Warren Beatty impersonator. who is insisting on 10,000 Bedouin midgets and the rebirth of international socialism before he even looks at the contract.

Richiebcfc29

7/21/2015 11:56:42 pm

So thats the end of blip?

I guess this whole video hosting stuff is about to implode what with addblock and ad revenues going down.

Anyway GL on your move to Youtube Brad i hope the copyright nazis dont give you any hard time.

DianaGohan

7/22/2015 12:04:47 am

Hope you guys find success in other places posting your stuff. Youtube seems fine for all the Brad Tries/Flaming Brian/Reviewers/80's Dan and Midnight Screenings but you'll still probably have to find somewhere else for Cinema Snob. I think the problems of copyright and the like you faced when you first posted videos there have only gotten worse and wouldn't want you to worry about that while focusing on your review content and the like.

Donald Trump link

7/22/2015 01:30:49 am

I, Donald Trump, must declare that Brad Jones is an idiot and a LOSER.

His reviews are terrible. I mean, look at how he just flaps his gums in a car with some other person, who I'm sure is also a loser. Now look, Blip is shutting down, and Brad can't even stop it.

I would have made a deal. I would have stopped Blip from closing because that's what I do. I make deals. Then, I would have posted numerous world class reviews, talking about very classy movies.

I mean, we're talking the best reviews that the internet has ever seen. I'd made the reviews, and we'd all make a lot of money together. A lot of money.

Has Brad Jones done that? Of course he hasn't. Instead, he just stands there while Blip closes and more Mexican rapists get into the country.

I am far better, and far richer, than Brad Jones. I can make better reviews.

VOTE TRUMP.

SamJ

7/22/2015 03:08:47 am

You're just mad that he reviewed your magnum opus "Ghosts Can't Do It" and didn't like it.

Donald Trump link

7/22/2015 03:13:59 am

This has nothing to do with that Cinema Snob review which I have not seen and did not get upset about. That's an absurd allegation, which only shows that you're a loser and that I am world class.

Remember. I am a world class businessman. The best businessman of all time, I would even say.

I don't like to brag, but I am the classiest, richest, and greatest person anywhere.

VOTE TRUMP.

A.R.

7/22/2015 03:16:23 am

Brad Jones' weakness was revealed when he no longer exercised the primacy of his dominance over fire and weak as a lamb succumbed to the collective through the enfeebled temperance of the tobacco free, itself a freedom only from the very lifeblood of freedom. A denial of freedom. But regret not the passing of a false deity and glory in a man. A man. of tungsten will, fired in the furnace of self, A man who does not whine and bleat like a goose on a broken millstone, but a man such as Donald Trump.

Louis

7/25/2015 02:29:27 am

Man it's a good thing you don't have an ego.

Gaz

7/22/2015 04:39:41 am

Just subbed.

All the best with the future, whatever it may hold.

Trikucian

7/22/2015 04:51:00 am

Welp, time to rewatch all of the old Cinema Snob episodes before they disappear.

John

7/22/2015 06:42:25 am

Midnight screenings playlist: 236 videos. Challenge accepted

Eric Gaede

7/22/2015 07:24:11 am

I, for one, am disappointed in you, Brad. You couldn't single-handedly keep an entire video hosting service afloat? What kind of Internet reviewer are you?

Floris

7/22/2015 10:14:14 am

Hey Brad,

I know it's a long shot, but is there any way you could perhaps host the video's (aside from the most recent ones obviously for ad purposes) on a site like Mega, or perhaps a little server of your own somewhere?

I'm just afraid that Youtube is going to end up being a total Copyright nightmare and stuff will be taken down at random.

I hope it all works out!

Scottlin De La Rocha

7/23/2015 04:01:32 am

Aren't there any alternative websites to go to instead of YouTube? When Angry Joe went back there, he started dealing with amazingly awful copyright procedures with his videos. I feel like the same thing is going to happen with other people and content creators who go back to YouTube and it's only going to spell trouble for the creators and the audience. I just think that there has to be alternatives rather than pony back to the biggest corporate owned video site on the internet. Hell I think Spoony stopped making "real" videos" because of the YouTube thing. Or am I just looking too deep into this? I don't know it just doesn't seem like it would be a good idea.

Sergeant343

7/23/2015 05:24:56 am

Well there is Screenwave that Doug uses.

Paul Latza

7/25/2015 10:55:25 am

Angry Joe's problems are of his own creation. Nintendo takes a cut of his Let's Play footage and he throws a hissy fit. But he's already earning money from his pay membership for his Angry Joe Army. If I were getting money from people, I'd still put up a Nintendo Let's Play even if I couldn't monetize it because I'd respect my audience (it might not be my highest priority, but I'd still do it).

It's relatively easy to make a 20-30 minute game review without seriously infringing on copyrights. The footage could be used to demonstrate mechanics without showing the story or music.

The 20-30 minute TGWTG movie reviewers, in comparison, almost certainly violate copyright. Brad's better off because half the stuff he covers no one cares about.

The Gimp

7/25/2015 01:15:53 am

I love how the people who have bitched about Blip before are now saying how they're gonna miss it. Maybe it's Stockholm Syndrome.

Joking aside it will be a little weird to see you using YouTube again. Personally I would've recommended Vimeo because it seems like it would be a bit easier to get around the Copyright Bots, but hey anything beats Screenwave.

Arthur Dent

7/26/2015 08:49:44 am

You fucking hypocrites. Every video Brad posted was followed by a "fuck you Blip" comment up until now. I'm looking forward to the hate directed to Youtube from now on

The Gimp

7/28/2015 10:13:20 pm

Hey at least the "fuck you Blip" comments are dead finally. They were getting repetitive.

Blip Is Dead

7/29/2015 11:01:38 am

Fuck You Gimp, FUCK YOU!!!!!

MCutter

7/28/2015 01:04:30 am

I was not aware of Blip closing down; it's not like they're advertising the fact on the "My Follows" page. You might want to follow suit with a lot of other producers and put up a video on Blip with links to your material.

Michael Buehler

7/31/2015 09:20:18 am

That what happens you gut yourself by removing a lot of your shows, annoying people with that annoying pop-up for adblock users, and being owned by Disney.

Jamie

8/4/2015 01:43:57 am

I will really miss Brad's movies. I hope he finds a way to either get them on to YouTube and dodge copyright strikes or finds somewhere else to host them.

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