Hollywood had certain tropes when it came to gay characters. Much less so today, but (from the early days) gay characters were generally the comic relief (I.e. sissy characters) or monsters (with lots of homicidal/suicidal tendancies). In the early 1980s, several Hollywood films like Windows, Crusing and Fame seemed to "Moral Majority"- approved lessons on just how dangerous 'the gays' and their agenda really were.
Personally, I can totally get the critique of the movie at the time, because at the time, the ONLY representation of LGBTQ people was negative (for the mainstream I mean), so YET ANOTHER negative representation of course would be bad. Had I been around in that time, I likely would have opposed the film. However, looking at it from a modern lens, with much more positive representation, this looks like a good psychological horror/thriller movie, although I'm not a fan of the ending because, honestly, it's a happily ever after ending and it doesn't fit. Personally, I'd have had it where the cop was an apathetic pile of shit and just as bad, and have her go her own way away from both.
Here's a interesting fact. My son is taking a course in Criminology. In one of the parts of the course they discussed violence in relationships. The highest, at 75%, is between Lesbians! Don't believe me? Check it out on the internet, it is easily verified.
I think the problem with domestic abuse among lesbians is mainly jsut because of how shitty police treat everyone who claims they've been abused by a woman (men being abused by their female S.O. have problems with police ignoring them, as well) because of the old sexist crap about women being physically weaker and/or not as prone to violence.
Turns out assuming women are inferior kinda screws over EVERYONE.
The snail is fast.
Yea I hear it is fast. They say the snail is fast.
First! This is the first time I've ever gotten to say that EVER! Let me do it just this once, guys!
It's official, you suck!!!
Hey Brad, have you seen the new Arnold Schwarzenegger movie Maggie yet? If you haven't, you must. It's so awesome! It's way better then something Terminator Genisys.
Agreed, Brad needs to do another cable movie vlog soon. Very interested in hearing his opinions of Big Game, We Are Still Here, and Dude Bro Party Massacre III (yes, that last one's a real title).
That last one's a slasher parody by the 5secondfilms crowd, isn't it?
Yes, it is
loved the video and your humor in this video. Switch blade claws that one I have to remember
Dear Mr. Snob,
I understand that this series had to progress, and indeed I have enjoyed most of the changes that have been made. The production quality is higher, the films reviewed are more diverse, the criticism is (occasionally) more honest instead of purely satirical (but not so much that the Snob ceases to exist and is replaced by this Brad person), and the jokes have remained funny. Like I said, the changes have been mostly good.
However, there is one problem with the new direction the show has taken: we haven't had a video open with the Greatest American Hero theme in what seems like forever. I loved the use of that theme! It was perfect! I... I miss it... Mr. Snob... I miss it bad. I think many others would agree with me as well. Even if it doesn't return permanently, would you please consider throwing it into a video or two every once and again? It's a fitting theme (in part because its so divorced from every film you review), people liked it, and it would be a reminder of where this show came from, its humble origins, and how long it has endured.
Do it for the children!
A Concerned Citizen
I think he had to stop using greatest american hero theme for copyright reasons so it is unlikely to return unfortunately
How much could the use of a theme song to a TV show that showed for two years nearly half a decade ago cost?
Half a decade? It aired from 1981 to 1983, so that's over three decades ago. But I can assume that it's over his budget to have any copyrighted material, he made a joke about it in his Heaven's Gate Review.
Actually, it's a little more complex than just cost. First you have to track down who to pay, get their permission, then they make up how much it's worth. Plus the fact that if they have bots scouring the internet for that song, it'll still ding you no matter what. I have a little experience with this when I started reviewing Full Moon Video's stuff. They were really nice about it and never charged me anything but YouTube's crappy copyright bots kept pulling my vids anyway.
Hell, I put out 5 videos and got over 25 complaints. How does that even happen considering they're all from the same person and my channel wasn't monetized. Just lame BS.
Believe or not the theme songs not here. It left some time ago. It must copyrighted or it would be around. Where could it be? Believe or not, it's not here.
Easy way around it: save the Youtube video of the Snob intro to your favorites, then just play it over the muted episode until you see 'Created and Edited by Brad Jones'
This is just speculation, but it wouldn't surprise me if being part of the League of Super Critics channel on YouTube contributed in part to it (since the reviews are reposted there, and YouTube is a lot more prone to copyright infringement claims than other video sites).
Believe it or not, he didn't purchase the rights. He must have thought it was free. Someone complained, claiming they had copyright. Who could it be? Believe it or not, their attorney.
Personally, I think he should just do what Diamanda did. Get a cover done.
If were going back to our roots we need a review from the floor that looks like it was shot on a Motorola Razr
Well, looks like Lloyd is guilty of something. I think he pulled off quite a catnapping.
I was expecing this to be a film about killer computer OSes and was terribly disappointed. And some people are gonna misinterpret that bit at the end.
Also sweet Jesus Christ that frozen cat is gonna give me nightmares.
So if Windows is gay, does that mean that Mac is straight?
Have you seen the "I'm A Mac and I'm a PC" ads? They're gay, in love, and hate fuck each other.
Somehow I figured there should be a "Body Double" reference in here somewhere. Nice work!
Worst broad city episode ever!
I learned about homosexuals from a little something called Ape Escape: On Air.
Why the HELL did I watch this right before going to bed?! Now I'm going to have knife-wielding rapist lesbian cat nightmares.
Lloyd was sleeping comfortably just to mock me!
I think the controversy comes from the fact that gay people were getting more political. .Lesbians even more than gay men tended to be shown as weird, threatening or kinky or all three in stuff like the Sentinel and in truth the majority of films of that sort of vintage, even to an extent in Woody Allen movies. Obviously, over time because attitudes have changed a film like this looks more like it's just about a psycho, but that's seeing it out of context. The point was maybe that the film makers thought they were being edgy and modern when thy were just conforming to very common film trope of violent threatening ladies often switchblades or other phallic substitutes threatening straight women. last house on the Left, Sudden Impact et all.
Yeah, the "Psycho Lesbian" stock character is one that still has a habit of showing up in modern stuff from time to time, occasionally.
And yet when 'Single White Female' did it, everyone lost their shit over how great it as. I've given up looking for rhyme and reason in audience reception. The slightly hypocritical thing is that Snob seems to think that Talia Shire was reduced to an object in the movie whilst at the same time suggesting she was being seduced into gayness by her psychopathic stalker, only to be swerved away by a rescue-penis. Would he have made the same comments about the stalker-victim dynamic in 'Enduring Love,' I wonder?
Yeah it seemed like Snob was caught up in being Pro-gay and over analyzed the movie. I think the fact that her sexuality was unstated/understated was a good thing.
Um, overanalyzing to the point of absurdity is kinda what this character has been doing for the past 7 years. I was poking fun at the critical reaction to the film. Do you think I literally believe this movie deliberately wanted to end with rescue penis? I even said "or it could just be a simple thriller" and also pointed out the exact same thing that SloMo did about that being a point against the movie being homophobic. I went after all points people had about the movie, and even mentioned how no one said anything like this when "High Tension" came out. I get why this movie was controversial at the time, but that doesn't mean I think the movie was a hateful film or even agree with the controversy. I even recommended this movie to my mom, who is a lesbian.
Why is this "Brad" post not grey? I CALL SHENANIGANS!
Dunno if you know this, but the real Brad's posts are grey in the name row. That wasn't really him, just someone trying to be the new Fake Josh Hadley. Real Brad replies are very noticable, such as on the Genysis review.
Also, "reviewer dibs/acknowledgements" are not required courtesy, which so many people don't seem to get. Other people have reviewed this movie before and, as you said, probably more critical and better. So? There are so many people trying to break into the internet reviewing business that trying to keep track of all of them and make them feel like precious snowflakes is steadily becoming more difficult than ever, no matter what Linkara tries to do.
I just remember you throwing a hissyfit over the HowardCantour.com "review" when you thought that was real as well. You just seem to keep falling for fake Brads (that video was just a satire on LeBouf's blatant plagarism by taking bits & pieces of numerous reviews to try to sound coherent).
Have a nice day, Andre. Better luck next time. :)
I don't appreciate your insinuations about Lloyd!
He's no Cosby.
Ah, New York in the early 80s, where you could get raped going into your apartment, and that's what made it exciting!
Are you ever going to look at What We Do In The Shadows?
Ah yes, 1980, when if a character in a film was gay, lesbian, or transgender, he or she was slapped with the label "batshit crazy" if they were the villain of the film.
And "Camp and/or destined to Die Tragically at the end of the film" if they weren't the villain.
I love much of the '80s style, but as a bisexual man I'm really glad I didn't have to live through then.
That poor cat in the freezer, it's expression was too funny.
Gong back to the shows roots? "bitch bitch! wake up bitch!" remember that?
I don't know why but I kept seeing The Bros throughout this review.
I wonder if the cat in this movie is played by the cat who was in "Alien."
Actually, this one is a fairly "OK" movie. But did they really kill that cat? Looks a little real for this time period and looks like it's frozen in pain. Freaky man.
I can't even watch Reanimator because of that cat scene in that and I know that one's fake. Way too freaky though.
The Talia Shire joke about knitted hats made me laugh. Lol it's pretty true. Though honestly I love knitted hats too!
Windows is pretty good but I prefer the '98 reboot.
You know Windows.
Every other version sucks.
I now officially want to see a movie where Tequila tracks down this mastermind cat and brings him to justice.
"But if you disagree, I will block you!"
There's a Twitter commentary in there somewhere. Not sure if it's directed at anyone in particular (Oancitizen, maybe?), or if it's just commenting on the mindset in general, but it certainly made me chuckle, especially after seeing the way some people act on there.
Also, great review. This looks like one of the better movies you've snobbed. I like the acting from the main characters and the cinematography. I might check it out. It's got a sort of Hitchcockian vibe to it, though slightly more skeezy than something Hitchcock probably would have made.
Am I the only one who thinks Elizabeth Ashley is kind of lesbian hot?
As opposed to gay man hot?
Yeah. Someone you'd like to fuck, but you realize they're probably not interested, what with you having the wrong thing in your pants.
Yes, I understand that feeling quite well. TT.TT
In the Sixties, Elizabeth Ashley was just hot. She was married first to James Farentino, then George Peppard, then I forget who. I recall her mostly from a few episodes of the original Mission: Impossible -- pretty damn alluring. Last I checked she's still alive and there's still a hint of what she was even in her seventies.
Must say she did crazy pretty well here.
One of the best reviews you've ever done! And seriously, the fuck is with the Razzies?
Some people like them. Get the fuck over it already.
Hey Brad, remember the old site where every other comment was an adbot trying to sell knockoff watches from Korea? Good times.
PS - Jillian's a badass.
Great review! Never heard of this movie before but it certainly doesn't look bad; regardless of the questionable subject matter I'll probably check it out, I love any movie which surrogates as a window (har har) into a 'slice of life' in the 1980s. Dunno why but just seeing people in 80s fashions walk around 80s streets catching 80s buses so they can go hang around in 80s apartments really pushes my buttons- in a good way.
Btw Brad, dunno if you've heard of this or not, but I just found a fun website which did a cool write-up of the '1987 Siskel & Ebert Video Gift Guide', which is just a TV special of the two Thumbers reviewing shit like Duck Hunt and 1980s cartoons on VHS.
You can watch the whole video here too, great nostalgia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_u5d7xWZ-Q
PS Brad could you please put up a video which is about 2hrs worth of footage of Lloyd sleeping? Maybe tack it onto the end of the Lloyd cartoon. I would watch that like crazy.
It's "I've shat my pants", not "I've shit my pants". Read a book, you lepton...
I think 'shit' still works in context, because he's directly referring to soiling an object, i.e, his pants which he did shit, not an action he performed in the past, for example, 'She shat on the windowsill.' If he said 'I've shit IN my pants,' that would be more grammatically troublesome.
Which one is he, the Greek monetary unit, or the subatomic particle?
You know, with a little rewriting this movie's plot could make a very interesting yandere yuri game...
will you do more movies like this you know the ones with crazy lesbians?
Not even ONE scene with a strap-on?!
This is NOT the best porno I've ever seen.
Though I did like the scene where they were watching television and the cop had a "I cannot believe my life has come to this" look on his face.
Oh, so the Razzies were always terrible. Good to know. I'd like to think that the one for The Shining was because of the verbal and mental abuse Kubrick inflicted on Shelley Duvall, but I suspect that wasn't the reason.
This was a really great episode. The cat jokes killed me. I guess it was a lot harder to put hidden cameras in some one's apartment back then. Granted, with audio-only it's also creepier in a way.
Didn't this movie get remade as 'Single White Female' and suddenly everyone thought it was fuckin' AWESOME?
Excuse me, but lesbians are NOT allowed to be depicted as crazy people! This film should have been a depiction of Andrea and Emily's burgeoning sapphic romance culminating in a beautiful wedding scene set in Lilith's Fair, not some sleazy stalker exploitation movie where Andrea is a villain who creates conflict!
I am going to hashtag against this movie SO HARD that the TV news channels will be forced to talk about it in their fluff pieces about internet stuff!
BRAD GO AND CHECK ON LLOYD I THINK HE MIGHT BE IN THE FRIDGE
Having just dealt with cat cadavers in my anatomy lab class, that looks really close to a dead cat. I really hope it's just a prop.
I really enjoyed this review. I thought it was very entertaining, thoughtful and it provided a lot of laughs!! Thanks for another awesome video! :D
Remeber this movie is bad because it makes you think that there is people in the LGBT community that are pure evil. Cause there is not and thinking otherwise means you are a homophobic prick
There's a difference between a psychopathic character who happens to be a lesbian, and a psychopathic character who is crazy BECAUSE they're a lesbian.
Razzie supporters are like HIV patients, they're useless to society and need to die in very slow, lingering deaths because they're retarted heterophobic scum.
They also both have low T-cell counts.
Dude? What the hell is this?! Does Talia Shire always end up being a victim in every movie. First she was the sister in Godfather, who kept getting beat up by her dickhead husband and she was a pregnant wife who had her baby infected by Mercury poisoning in Prophecy (Which you should review, because Prophecy was one of my favorite movies and would love to see you cast your opinion of the film, because I wanna know if you can do a sleeping bag explosion joke, because it made me puke when I saw it at age 9 and did my first swear word "What the fuck?!" which did lead my grandma to washing my mouth out with soap, ha classic...) And in this film, she even gets stalk by a psychotic woman, which I will not referrer her as a Lesbian, because for the reason you brought up.
Soooo, am I going to hell for laughing my ass off at the Frozen Cat? Admittedly when they first showed it and you just saw the head, I kinda went "awwww noooo :<" because it looked kinda convincing.... until they showed the whole body, at which point it looked fake as fuck, and it got even worse the way it just slid out of the freezer and fell to the floor with a hollow thud as though it were made out of plastic or hollow wood (Gee, I wonder) and I laughed my arse off.
I found it pretty laughable too. It's hard to explain why, but there's just something silly about the way it falls.
Why were my comments removed? Are my statements and opinions that much of a threat to the status quo of Brad's site that I need to be silenced? I'm not being a dick, I just wanna know the truth. And whoever answers, please dont be a dick yourself, it's really not necessary.
I recognize Talia's workplace! The "giant vagina" in the opening scene and then the weird clear thing they are building in the middle of the movie: that's the Brooklyn Children's Museum. I must have gone there a hundred times as a kid in the 80s. Great place. Way more fun than some greasy old Chuck E. Cheese, I can tell you.
Not bad, Snob. But I still like the reviews of this done by The Movie Explorer and Infamous Sphere better. Perhaps you've heard of them? And if you haven't, I highly recommend their work. Have a nice day.
Snob, you're almost as entertaining as Elizabeth Ashley. Ms.Ashley has always been smoky perfection. Makes my lesbionic pulse race. But surely there had to be someone hotter to stalk in 1980 than the sweet but too mousy Talia. Jessica Lange would have been my choice to play Emily.
Some of the older archived videos of 2009 were brought over from the youtube account before thecinemasnob.com was created, so please forgive the lesser video quality of such as some did not transfer well.