Really? They made another one of these?
And just when you thought you couldn't dig any deeper into the manure pile, they prove you wrong.
I admire you, good sir, for your endurance in watching these.
There is a manure pile outside where I live (a farm). One time, when it was cold, the shit had frozen solid. So I just did what any 56 year old guy, who have never kissed a girl, would do. I drilled a whole into it and fucked. Just sayin'
I can vouch for that!
I don't usually go there on a first date, but he was just so smelly I couldn't resist.
This one is no where near as bad as Silent Night part 5 or the remake. At least you can tell Clifton Howard's having fun
I meant Clint. Sorry
Awww yeeeah I finally got here early enough that Blip is like "naahhh"
I know right? I've always heard about it but it's the first time I see it
The legends were true! If only I had heeded their warnings, I would not have been forced to suffer... THE CURSE OF BLIP!
Now I am forever to be pained with mild annoyance and odd processing times myself! May none else fall victim to such a terrible fate, etc. etc.
You guys can watch now
Thank you Blip
Good. I thought I was going to have to bend you over my knee.
Pig: Pay my bill.
Phone: Your account is already paid in full.
Pig: Huh. Well, in that case back to vacation mode. *puts in headphones* BOOTS AND PANTS AND BOOTS AND PANTS AND BOOTS AND PANTS AND BOOTS AND PANTS AND BOOTS AND PANTS AND BOOTS AND PANTS AND BOOTS AND PANTS AND BOOTS AND PANTS AND BOOTS AND PANTS AND BOOTS AND PANTS AND BOOTS AND PANTS AND BOOT- Geico.
...Who the hell is Blip? =P
Clicked on the Ebay link and was greeted by: "el cine Snob película" Obra De Arte Original 24 pulgadas x 36 pulgadas Óleo Sobre Lienzo (además de una firma Dvd)
I love it when webpages auto translate stuff, it's so bad... love it
(Also wish I could buy it but I'm also broke... hnng... want...)
I KNOW! I, too, am broke or that painting would be occupying a place of honor on my wall as we speak.
FAT GRANDMA! My Christmas wish came true!
Fat Grandma is the best. I could watch her woffle on for at least 20min.
Fat Grandma needs to be in a video with the Bros from You Can't Stop the Music.
Never mind Halloween III, even Prom Night II had more to do with it's predecessor than this abomination!
Though, like Halloween III, I'm guessing Roger Ebert didn't realize this film wasn't a direct sequel either.
Ah, Fat Grandma, the real Christmas miracle. I heard she slapped Kirk Cameron in the mouth with her world famous flapjacks, and that even Madea can't out sass her.
Brad you have to do Hellraiser series. First two movies are great but other 7 (yes the series have 9 movies!) are just terrible.
This was reminding me of something, so I went for a look - apparently it was originally meant to be a Society sequel, but they figured the SNDN series was 'more profitable' and just went with the title.
Client Howard month please!
I don't like women and their anti-semenism.
Ha! From now on when I troll these SJW people I’m going to use the name “Spaghetti Justice Warrior White Knight Ballpit”
That joke got me good Brad.
You do realize that trolling is it's own form of Social Justice Warfare, don't you "Inquisitor"?
Slander and lies heretic!
Clint Howard was in Silent Night, Deadly Night 4: Initiation.
Clint Howard was also in The Grinch.
The Grinch is a Christmas movie.
Ergo, Silent Night, Deadly Night 4: Initiation is also a Christmas movie.
I wish I made more money, I would buy that painting immediately.
So. Damned. Good.
Wow. I actually saw part of this on television one time long ago. I never knew what it was called. Thanks... I guess?
Was that Reggie Bannister?
Indeed it was. Which is weird because Reggie and Clint look like they could have come from the same litter of sub humans. :P Speaking of which, we need some Phantasm in our Snob future.
As a fan of both the Phantasm series and the Cinema Snob, I heartily endorse this comment.
Aww I kinda like this movie, I'm a Brian Yuzna fan. It has everything you could want in a low budget flick, evil lesbian witches, weird body mutationx, a hoard of insect monsters and Clint Howard as the most passive aggressive serial killer ever. It's not in line with the previous films but it's twisted fun.
For as mediocre as this movie is, the special effects on those bugs are pretty good for Direct-to-Video standards.
Screaming Mad George did the effects (or at least is credited for some fx work. Maybe the budget hurt the other stuff, or maybe SMG only did part of the fx.
Not a fan of "Fat Granny Goodness", but I'm sure glad another bad offspring of Silent Night Deadly Night getting its due!
I was really disappointed with this movie. Not ONCE did they try and offer me to come back.
i would say that this movie sucks based on blatant theme alone.
This is what I'm talking about when I say that a blatant theme always ruins a movie: if you want to make a statement about feminism, make it subtle, that way, the majority of the audience won't notice it, and the scholars who are trying to study it for a grade probably will.
I'm not against feminism, I just find that when it comes to blatant themes, feminism is one of the top 3 usual suspects. It's like sometimes script writers think that "If our theme is commonly excepted then it's okay to make it obvious, that way we'll get negativity for it and it will strengthen the loyalty of the viewers who strongly believe in said theme."
Hell, that's what ruined the Alien franchise for me.
Here are the top 5 themes that tend to break this rule (1 being the most common):
1. Anti Racism
5. Anti War
I'm not saying I am against any of these beliefs, but they are probably the most commonly used blatant themes. There have been so many movies that I have seen, where I feel like blatant themes have drastically hurt their quality, let me list some off:
The Iron Giant, Iron Man, Iron Man 2, Iron Man 3, Alien, Alien 2, Alien 3, Alien 4, Alien vs Predator 2, The Men Who Stare At Goats, Cars 2, Madagascar, Top Gun, Ms Congeniality, Tarzan, WALL-E, G.I. Jane, Back To The Future pt 3, Birdemic: Shock And Terror, Mulan, Brave, and Wild Wild West.
I don't consider all of those movies to be "Bad" but I think all of them have on thing in common: their blatant themes kept all of them from being good movies.
yeah! didn't Madagascar have some sort of blatant "Don't go out into the wild it's dangerous" kind of theme to it? That's like one of those obvious themes that you only see in a few things, like Jungle Book, Wild Thornberry, and Into The Wild. It's not a popularly used blatant theme, but it is used quite a bit: it wasn't too bad in The Jungle Book, but it got pretty annoying sometimes in Wild Thornberry and Into The Wild. Again I'm not sure if it was predominately used in Madagascar as much as I remember it being used.
I forget, it's been a while since I watched Madagascar, I do remember it being one of the movies I've seen with an obvious theme in it. I may be thinking of something else though.
So basically anything that could possibly construed as in anyway left leaning or having 20th-21st century subtext has a blatant theme.
So what films don't have blatant themes?
No, in fact I've found a good amount of movies don't have blatant themes, some might have blatant morals, some might have blatant areas of character development, but some of them are so vague in following their theme, yet effective.
Here are some movies that do not have blatant themes, you have to put alot of thought into thinking about what the themes of these movies are:
The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
Star Wars: A New Hope
Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back
Star Wars: Return of The Jedi
Star Trek: The Motion Picture
Star Trek: The Rath of Kahn
Star Trek: Search For Spock
Star Trek: The Voyage Home
The Grand Budapest Hotel
Night of The Museum
Dumb and Dumber
The list seriously goes on and on, I also could have put any Mel Brooks movie on this list.
Also another thing, Hand of Onan.
The Expendables had a blatant theme, it was very Anti Dictator.
Like... as much as I love the cast they got, I also just happen to be a very big fan of dictatorships: and I think the "Anti Dictator" theme was a little too blatant for my taste, like... why should these mercenaries care if this guy is being cruel? Because he's a dictator? What a poor excuse. But fuck, at least they pulled it off better than Quantum of Solace did.
But still, I love The Expendables, it ain't a bad movie, in fact it's very entertaining. It's blatant theme is literally all I had against it... aside from the cringe worthy ending of "joe cool, you gotta be a fool".
I understand, it's not a perfect world, I don't expect others to judge movies the way I do. It's just that when a movie has a theme that's so blatant that it takes away the immersion, it does drastically lower the quality of the movie for me.
Well some of those films you listed do have blatant themes albeit not on the whole political.
Though in the case of the Good The Bad and The Ugly it was designed as a Marxist allegory on capitalism and the section with the dying soldiers is a blatant anti Vietnam comment.
The Shining=domestic violence
The Voyage Home=Environmentalism, they're literally saving the whale, plus 60s Utopian idealism v 80s cynicism, numerous reference to the love generation. Hippies in space basically.
The Empire Strikes Back good v evil
Toy Story the fear of growing up and friendship
The Search for Spock friendship.
The Terminator anti technology
The Terminal immigration and bureaucracy
Willow short people can be heroes too, so don't judge people on physical differences.
Where as I think Alien is more about the fear of being physically invaded/raped/playing host to a parasite than feminism. In fact it was written so that any of the character could be either sex and arguably Ripley only became female in the wake of Halloween.
In fact it is pretty hard to make a film without subtext and most films have blatant themes one way or the other.
Good vs Evil is not a theme... that's the sole purpose of conflict in general.
The Good The Bad And The Ugly being anti war and marxist towards capitalism? I never caught that, and frankly, i think it would be easy to say that's bullshit. Just because there was one situation where they stopped two sides from fighting, doesn't automatically mean it's theme is anti war, in order to be a "Blatant Theme" it must be omnipresent throughout the entire movie. Frankly? I think you're really stretching things there.
Friendship is not a theme, Good vs Evil is not a theme (in fact it's the basic fundamental elements that create the meaning of "conflict", not theme)
I think the only one's you listed that I absolutely agree with, are Terminator, A Voyage Home, and The Terminal.
I think you nailed those right on the head, but I think The Terminal is so complex with it's theme that it can't really be defined. I think you're right that it focused on the problems of Immigration, but only somewhat, the love part of it was definitely centered towards a separate theme... which I think made the movie a lot more enjoyable.
I agree with you on those three, but friendship is not a theme... I'm sorry. The importance of friendship maybe, but I think that wasn't the primary focus of A Search For Spock, it also covered the importance of family, and the importance of faith. I think that in the end, the theme only shined through the movie's morals, and were not present throughout the majority of the movie itself.
Toy Story? Also a little bit of a stretch. Although the importance of friendship was eventually covered in the moral, and can be later viewed as an overall theme, the interesting concept of Toys being alive overshadowed that quite well, and the oddity of that concept was the main focus of the movie: I'd hardly say that the theme is blatant.
Good v Evil and friendship are themes is along with other big ones like God, death, sex. who am I.
What you are talking about is issues and subtext. The subtext of the Good the Bad and The Ugly is that Leoni like a lot of Italians of his generation was a Marxist and believed his film to be about the cheapness of life under capitalism, hence bounty hunters and the lust for money. The anti Vietnam slant was obvious to audiences in the 60s but is less so now because it is not a current concern. And as I said you're plainly just annoyed by what you perceive as political messages or bias. You could take the Ocean films and say the blatant message is conning people is cool or any action film as basically saying violence works etc. In fact most films send out mixed messages and some are political by design.
Now as a parent to me the theme of Story is fear of being replaced in your child's affection and discarded as they grow up, Woody is left at home for the first time while Andy goes off fore an adventure. And parents attach all kinds of nostalgic value to their children's toys, keep baby shoes in bottom draws or old drawings, things like that.
Okay, you know what, I'll admit, I'm purposefully not considering God, Friendship, or Death as themes because of my personal definition of "theme".
Clearly you're going off of the actual definition, and you're trying to show me that I'm wrong by that definition, congratulations.
I don't consider them themes because I see them as nothing but "topics". Themes are statements about topics, not topics themselves.
Again, I'm probably wrong, perhaps i don't wish to accept the correct definition of "theme" because I'm an ignorant bastard who likes it when everything makes sense.
No, I'm not talking about bias, political statements, or anything like that. I'm talking about when a movie is trying to make a statement about anything. They're supposed to make a statement because it gives the movie purpose, but if that statement is so blatant that it takes me out of the movie, then it pisses me off.
I get what you're saying, I'm accepting the fact that my wording isn't exactly 100% accurate. But otherwise, I'm curious, how do you feel when a movie blatantly tries to tell you a statement about a particular subject? It makes you mad right? I'm pretty damn sure that's how a lot of people feel.
The difference I've found between me and everyone else, is that I don't like it when a movie has a blatant theme (again, a statement about a topic that is supposed to invoke change in the audience), regardless of whether I disagree with the theme or not. I see it as shitty writing.
but when it comes to being chill, I'm one of the chillest of dudes, I hate critiquing stuff because, well let's face it, critiquing stuff doesn't satisfy me in any way, nor should it. I shouldn't feel happy when I talk shit about something.
Dude, it's cool. I'm not a guy who likes to hate on things, I'm just saying, when I judge a movie's quality, one of the first things I look for is how blatant the theme is.
Good news, Snob. Part 5 returns to taking place on/near Christmas, so it'll be a better fitted review.
Also, Mickey Rooney was one of the many idiots that protested the original film, but then starred in 5. . . funny.
they made another one? what kind of idiot thought that would be a good idea? also, if people are still gonna use the whole "Hollywood is all about money" excuse, then explain to me how this film will make anyone money. who asked for another sequel in the first place? the same 2 people who asked for Wrong Turn 6? I can understand milking a franchise like a prized heifer, but this is really pushing it. some franchises are just too spoiled to continue milking, and this franchise was sucked dry a long time ago.
and guess what folks, this is not the end. we have another unnecessary Christmas sequel that came out this year: Jingle All The Way 2. because if making a sequel to A Christmas Story was unnecessary, well, it is. and now we have another unnecessary sequel to dump onto store shelves because I guess Hollywood is proving to us once again that it has run out of ideas. and just to make this film seem even more unnecessary and worthy of a Brad & Jake review, it manages to get Larry The Cable Guy as the main role to replace Arnold Schwarzenegger.
"explain to me how this film will make anyone money."
It probably cost relatively little to make, and now that it's made, all they have to do is kick back and wait for people to buy it. DVD sales, TV airings, rentals, etc. throughout the world. Even if it takes awhile, they will make money eventually.
ok, fair enough. but even if that's the case, it's not worth it. it's barely a sequel to Silent Night Deadly Night, it's barely watchable, it's barely enjoyable, and it's barely a good excuse to waste money just for a horror sequel no one is going to like. artistic integrity is far more important than making a horror movie that no one even remembers or cares except for a very small minority of people.
"when I said aim low I didn't think he'd to excavate the tar pits."
also, this film isn't going to make anyone any money anytime soon because the dvd set that was released by Lions Gate that had this film & the 5th film in it has been officially out of print since 2009 and has not been re-issued since. it got released once in a set, never got it's own single release, and forgotten just as quickly by the very same film company that released it.
This episode of The Cinema Snob will surely reignite interest the film.
I predict deluxe box sets with special features by Christmas.
maybe it might ignite interests, maybe not. but out by Christmas, eh, that's a long stretch. I think this episode might gain interest for a few people to check this movie out. but I highly doubt it that a major motion picture studio is going to re-release a movie like this mostly because the demand is extremely low. trust me, I have had conversations with my younger brother about a similar topic about how I wanted Netherrealm Studios to re-release on a live arcade or as a 4th MAT game the 90's Midway arcade games (MK4, The Gird, Terminator 2, & Tron). if the interest isn't there, no one is going to re-release this movie even by this month (which is far too quick for re-distribution). besides, we only need one Silent Night Deadly Night film. no one asked for Birdemic 2, Wrong Turn 6, Psycho 3 & 4, a pseudo-prequel/remake to The Thing, Gingerbread Man 1-3, Wishmaster 3 & 4, American Psycho 2, The Fly 2, or Hellraiser Revelations. so I'm sure no one is going to demand Silent Night Deadly Night 4 & 5 from Lion's Gate. I would rather see a proper dvd/blu-ray release of NBC's Viper, 90's Marvel cartoons, Mortal Kombat DOTR/Conquest, Godzilla 1985, Pokemon Original 3 1/2 films, Batman Masked Of The Phantasm, The Exorcist III Director's Cut, Cardcaptor Sakura Movie 2, Disney's The Black Hole & The Black Cauldron, Mortal Kombat + Annihilation (w/ special features like the behind the scenes for MK1 & the deleted ending in MKA), Batman Forever Director's Cut, Alien 3 Director's Cut, & the original unaltered Star Wars trilogy than to see a half ass dvd/blu-ray release of Silent Night Deadly Night 4 & 5.
In this case it was made at a time when VHS rentals were still big and as it was really nothing at all to do with Silent Night Deadly Night my guess is that Brian Yunza made a film that could have been called anything. So the Silent Night Deadly Night 5 tag was just a way of selling it to rental outlets. It's like how none of the Prom Night sequels have anything to do with Prom Night and are in fact sequels to Prom Night 2 Hello Mary Lou which wasn't even made as a sequel in the first place.
that makes the most sense. at the end of the day, it's just a marketing ploy. it's just like The Thing pseudo-prequel/remake. a film that pretends to be a sequel to an already established franchise, but it's just a false imitation of the real thing. now, if it was a sequel with a blood thirsty cybernetic Santa with glowing red eyes a candy cane chainsaw, then I would buy it.
"Candy Cane Chainsaw Massacre"
a classic ho-ho-horror film for the ho-ho-holidays
These movies weren't about "making money". This piece of sheepshit was made in 1990 if I'm not mistaken?
The magic (compound) word here is: Write-off.
Was Clint Howard ever NOT balding?
Don't let the Nostalgia Critic see Fat Grandma. He'll do a weird photoshop thing and make everyone uncomfortable.
"Men are evil and only use women for sex. Women are emotional basket-cases who are lesbian witches"-
The two most honest definitions of the genders I've ever heard.
not if you count George Carlin.
“Here's all you have to know about men and women: women are crazy, men are stupid. And the main reason women are crazy is that men are stupid.”
Speaking of Christmas...
Someone send Dave a copy of this as a gift. Hardback. Autographed by Tyler Perry himself. I'm in the mood for a book burning.
The Flying Spaghetti Monster Pastafarians now have a new moniker to call themselves.
This was fantastic! What a great ChristmaHannaKwanzFestivus present. Fat Grandma, Clint Howard, I am spoiled this year. Brian Yuzna always finds ways to make disgusting subjects quite watchable in a ironic manner.
You should check out Space Station 76. Saw it today. It'd be your type of movie.
This movie is #superduperfeminist !
Not really. The women in this film are depicted just as badly as the men. It's more like what an anti-feminist thinks a feminist is: a bunch of witches gathering power and luring young girls away from men who are all pigs.
Actually, I think he's referencing the Snob's review of "The Conqueror". In the review, he sarcastically said "#feminist", "#superfeminist", or "#superduperfeminist" whenever the main character said something sexist.
Indeed. NOT ONE mention of garbage day!
What the hell?
Silent Night Deadly Night 4 - see Jingle All The Way 2
A Christmas Story 2 - see Home Alone 4
Garbage Day - see Michael Bay's career
Reptile - see Lawyer
Not since Blood Freak have I seen a person so obviously glancing at the script while talking. For shame, Lewis (I kid. I would need cue cards if I tried to act.)
Clint Howard is the go-to man for awkwardly creepy. I think Clint was part of a raised-by-wolves experiment with Ron as the control group.
Yeah, I'll freely confess I was looking off to the side for the scripts. I had JUST finished filming a review, was tired, and Brad tends to give Fat Grandma friggin MONOLOGUES when he writes her. XD I did the best that I could to make it look like Fat Grandma was just looking around everywhere all crazy-like, buuut it didn't work, obviously. ^^;
I thought that looked like Clint Howard in the title card. I'm not sure if that more speaks well of the artist or poorly of my state of mind.
I actually look forward to the Christmas episode each year now because of Fat Grandma. Sass it up, sexy!
Brad, how could you not mention Reggie THE MAN Bannister is in this? Give Phantasm a drop.
is it me, or does Linkara seem more like a drunk Doc Brown in a bath robe than a white black grandma?
also, the 2nd half of this movie seems more like Halloween 6 if the Thorn Cult was run women from The View, replacing psychiatrists with witches, and giving birth to baby demon Jason from Jason Goes To Hell.
Actually, the two movies are closer than you'd think. Warriors of Virtue was brought to us by the same jackass who gave us Bride of Chucky (& later Freddy vs. Frankenstein wearing a hockey mask) . . . 2 degrees of rotted bacon!
I would love to see a John Carpenter month on here. They're good work, but they're so good to riff.
Okay, the bizarre aspect is I have not been on here since Turkish First Blood's Revenge of the Seething Baboon. I have yet to see this episode but I know your pain of seeing Maud Adams, Clint Howard and Reggie Bannister in this festering turd burger.
The film itself wasn't horrendous but I didn't see other than commercial link up to the franchise the point of the title. Not that the continuation of Ricky and his Jiffy Pop popcorn helm going well.
4 is unrelated to the rest of the series? I wish I'd known that earlier, I never even heard of 3 and I was going crazy trying to figure out what kind of movie would have bridged the gap between 2 and 4.
Has the Cinema Snob done a full crossover with Linkara? That would be something I like to see.
They did two (not counting bigger group ones). One with a Manimal comic (which only is similar to the show in name only), the other with the movie Bimbos BC (where Linkara's characters met Snob's characters).
They should do a full review with just 80's Dan and 90's Kid.
Maybe Batman or something
None of these sequels have ever been the same ever since Eric Freeman left the series.
Linkara is anti-funny incarnate
Dear GOD Linkara is fucking awful
I find Linkara and Fat Grandma Funny.
Hopefully a blessed soul takes this video, chops out Linkara, and puts it up on Youtube. Then it'd be completely entertaining.
Because simply skipping through it is soooooooo hard.
That was beautiful, thank you Brad. Moar Fatgrandma is always glorious!!!
Funny how I've met Maud Adams, and she gave me a trillion dollar bill as part of her evangelical Christianity. If only I knew this film existed...
Some of the older archived videos of 2009 were brought over from the youtube account before thecinemasnob.com was created, so please forgive the lesser video quality of such as some did not transfer well.