Just out of curiosity, which movie would you rather watch/ Wired or Blues brothers 2000?
that is the most retarded question ever asked. No one would ever watch blues brothers 2000. bb2k is, bottom line, UNFUNNY with zero redeeming qualities. Wired, is equally insulting to your intelligence, but is still amusing for how batshit insane it can be.
I'd watch Blues Brothers 2000, actually, newt. I haven't seen either, really, but BB2k does have one redeeming quality: its soundtrack. Wired is seriously offensive to the memory of a dead guy, which makes everything about it unpleasant.
I;d rather watch Blues Brothers 2000. it's a wet fart of a movie but it's just irrelevant and shouldn't exist because it has no point. Wired is insulting not just if you liked Belushi but also on a general human level for how little respect it has for a person.
I'm disappointed Snob. You show a clip of kids being taught by a crazy looking teacher, and you didn't make a Snowpiercer reference.
way too recent of a movie for him, even if it is foreign
That's not true though, he referenced Snowpiercer/Men Behind the Sun in a Snob video a while back.
He references "The Identical" in this very episode.
Snowpiercer isn't too recent.
The husband bears a striking resemblance to present-day Ben Folds.
Oh God he does!!
Maybe he belongs to the First Church of Appliantology.. He needs to learn to speak German.. a lot of really cute ones come from over there!
YES! Go into the closet!
Nice Zappa reference!
Fucking blip. It worked perfectly.
R.I.P. Rik Mayall.
It's been such an unfunny year. :-(
I thought I saw him in there! I miss the guy dearly. :-(
You "thought" you saw him...
So Brad point blank mentioning Rik by name during the scene he was in was not enough of a clue?
Yes!!! I can't wait for the next episode!!
This movie looks pretty fun and a little WTF, I guess, but I'll stick with real WTF movies like "The Magic Christian", thank you very much.
My official guess for next week: "Staying Alive".
1stly for some reason your videos brad they freeze and than play fine for a few seconds than freeze again that's been happening a LOT lately. i watched some of the videos on James Rolfe's site and i don't have that issue. it must be blip. anyways, i had been dying for you to do this one. it's a guilty pleasure of mine. hell i even met
shit i forget his name. but he was in Rocky Horror as a Transvessitte. he autographed my dvd of it actually. anyways. i hope you do Rocky Horror one day. i actually think Shock Treatment is a better film but that's my own personal taste.
Tim Curry?! You met Tim Curry?! How I envy you, my unknown friend. I still insist he be allowed to play the Joker if they ever made a "Dark Knight Returns" type bat flick, he'd be perfect! Ever see "IT"? Yes, the movie itself is eh, but he's funny, creepy & laughs at other's misfortunes. . . that's the Joker I know & love!
we actually came extremely close to having Tim Curry be the Joker, he was initially cast as the Joker in Batman the animated series. His version of the Joker was deemed to scary though and was then replaced by Mark Hamill
Why do you have a poster of The Identical up there?
bro, the better question is WHY WOULDN'T HE?
Because The Identical is the best movie of the year, and you should definitely run out and see it.
Personally if I had it my way Mr. Curry would've voiced Joker in that splendid DKR animated film. Specifically, THAT'S the Joker I mostly associate him with. I really hope we get another live action Joker someday. I don't mind Heath's "version", but he LOOKED like another random henchman!
But, that's what you get in the "real world". *Disclaimer: all the acting was great, but. . . . a chemical-dip free Joker, an acid-splashed free Two-Face (like being half burned & remaining alive is any less real). I loved Scarecrow's mask but why couldn't he wear a slightly tattered brown suit as opposed to his nice & pressed one? Strip Ra's Al Ghul of all his regality & make him a simple terrorist, not even let him wear green pants? Why must EVERYONE wear black?! Catwoman got off easy, but Bane went from one of the most badass looking characters ever. . . to a jacked-up Mortal Kombat character (look at the mask!) who wears a fur coat & a vest, which served NO purpose what so ever, if it did tell me.
Ok I'm ranting, sorry. Point is, please keep Sir Nolan away from comic book movies (he can do Punisher, there's absolutely NOTHING unrealistic about him & he wears black so there you go, all you have to do is add the f*cking skull!). If you demand realism watch Arrow, they get the characters right WHILE maintaining their comic looks, & it's fun!
The reason Heath Ledger's Joker was so aesthetically good is a bit more understated than you might think. Have you ever heard of a ‘Glasgow Smile’? The term is coined from Glasgow, Scotland where gangs, as a sort of brutal initiation, or message to others, or simply for the fun of it, put a blade (razor, knife, etc.) in your mouth, take a small slice on either side of your lips apex, and then proceed to give you a blanket party. The result is, after the beating, your skin will contract and pull the cuts to have a horrifying scar as a result. (Actor Tommy Flanagan ((http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0281107/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t24)) - Braveheart, Smoking Aces, Gladiator… Actually has a Glasgow Smile. He got it leaving a club in Scotland where a bunch of guys jumped him.)
Say what you want about the traditionalist approach to comics but I happen to agree with this method of showing the Joker’s frivolity instead of some chemical accident that’s not grounded in scientific or social fact. The fact they left his true origin and his casual dismissal of the disfigurement when movies like the Burton Batman focus so heavily on it was a breath of fresh air. I had a long standing conversation with a comic store owner about comic movies a little while ago and he and I agreed that ‘The Dark Knight’ in particular was the best one. The reason for that is the fact that it’s not an origin story. Other than say ‘The Avengers’ (which can also be invalidated since it was an origin story for the team of super heroes rather than the individual heroes themselves) every comic book movie is about an Origin story. Same thing, rehashed with a bigger polish and gleam. The only origin in Dark Knight was that of two-face, and that turned about to be a small (if show ending) bit of the overall story. The simple fact that this conversation is being had is a good sign that it can be taken and interpreted in different ways rather than just rehashing the same old bullshit. A sign that this portrayal of the Joker is one worth talking about.
Side note- I’ll agree about the Bane and Scarecrow thing. I thought they weren’t handled well in those movies. Other than Dark Knight, I thought the Nolan Batman series were ‘meh’ movies.
It's actually funny, given my defense of the Heath Ledger Joker, when my friends ask me 'who's the best Joker' I always say Mark Hammel. Throws em' for a loop.
A) Yes indeed I'm aware of the Glasgow. From what I've heard, Conrad Veidt's Gwynplaine receives one as a child at the beginning of "The Man Who Laughs", one of the main influences on the Joker's creation, also The Black Dahlia Elizabeth Smart had one, in addition to her severed body. I noticed Heath carved one on that Batman wannabe. Creepy? Yes, but I'll stick to the traditional ear to ear Joker-ish smile, thank you, sir. Finally, since Nolan insists on being realistic I must ask, wouldn't that tearing of the flesh then smearing lipstick on get it infected?
B) "Not grounded in scientific fact". Uh, it's a comic book not a course in chemistry. If I want facts I'll watch a documentary, or the History Channel (joke!).
C) Most comic films ARE origin stories, how else are you going to educate the common folk who never heard of the title character? Though to be honest, I thought "Amazing Spider-Man" could've just explained his origin in the opening credits, also maybe not have poor Uncle Ben get shot over some chocolate milk!
D) Bane got the worst treatment, as I knew he would. Why couldn't Nolan use Black Mask, Hush, Zsaz (again) or the Riddler? They're mostly realistic, characters we've never seen & can carry a movie!
Eh, as far as I'm concerned ALL the Bat licks are Else World stories on film. Here's hoping Batfleck is the most accurate interpretation of this beloved character. He's got a proper bat suit (FINALLY!!!!!) so I figure he's already halfway there. . . . . .
I agree.. I like the Nolan Batman films. Heath was a pretty memorable joker, but he's all facial ticks and overdoes it on the reptilian lip licking thing. Curry would have been an awesome joker.
To be honest, I don't get the "real world" batman vibe from Nolan's films at all. They're more like a film noir version of the story. Lots of underlet rooms, muted colour pallets shadows and people in suites. It's quite cool in a Maltese Falcon meets the X Files sort of way, but it is a long way from realism. The real world is actually pretty colorful and bright.
I would like to second the recommendation of Brad reviewing:
Roller Blade Warriors: Taken by Force (1989)
In case you have never heard of this movie it is Mad Max meets Roller Derby with naked ladies.
Forget that, he should do Donald G. Jackson's entire filmography. That man gave us nothing but gold.
Now that I think about it, as much as I've enjoyed Brad's critical re-analyses of New Hollywood-era cinema and other cult esoterica, it's been a while since he's tackled his once characteristic fare of the golden age of '80s video trash, and I kind of miss it.
My sincerest apologies anyone wanting to reply to Brad_Not_Snob for taking this space, but I meant Bat flicks. Nothing worse than going on a rant & then misspelling sumthing!
Aloha, Mr. Hand. . . of Onan!
You think Heath over did it, huh? Well ,as the biggest anti-Nolan-ite let me, a fellow male, complement you on your balls! I know bro, sounds gay bro, sorry bro, but even I don't talk like that for fear of getting swarmed by Nolan-ites, emo Harley Quinn fans & society at large!
Thanks for the support!
This actually looks like a pretty entertaining movie. It's 10X better than the more recent "comedies" that have been thrown together by hollywood.
you know what's a good thing to do in Denton? pack up and get the fuck out.
And they STILL couldn't get Charles Gray a fucking neck.
I actually prefer Shock Treatment to Rocky Horror. It, perhaps, doesn't have as great a sound track, but to me the soundtrack to ST is more memorable.
I like the satire a bit more in this one, but Rocky Horror has way better set pieces, and more of those who went on to become bigger stars.
Still, I like Shock Treatment more somehow.
So awesome to see you reviewing one of my favorite musicals ever. (Seriously. Its up there with Little Shop of Horrors and South Park:Bigger, Longer, and Uncut!) I went into it a couple of years back blind only knowing it was the RHPS sequel. I got it for like a fiver at Wal Mart during one of their Halloween DVD endcap thingies. And then didn't get around to watching it for another year or two. And I fell in love with it! Awesome as hell music. Cute as hell Janet! A very prophetic story. It just rules.
I feel like I end up seeing half you videos when I'm drunk. Oh well. Love it still :)
The forgotten sequel to Rocky Horror, I saw it ages ago when it was bundled with Rocky Horror in a DVD set.
No joke about Brad being a Six-Million Dollar Asshole this time around? Oh, wait, I came up with that joke. Never mind.
Thanks a ton for reviewing this! I agree with almost everything you said. The film's a bit of a mess, but the musical numbers are catchy and, at the risk of pissing a lot of people off, dare I say superior to RHPS, and the casting is brilliant. I always had a crush of Harper, and Little Nell is hand-bitingly SEXY in this one!
Dude, so's Patricia Quinn!
Brad, since you review obscure, exploitation films, and you had a pierre Kirby month, you should do what has been the most obscure and exploitive of them ALL...... PETER CARPENTER WEEK!!!!! you can make a joke about how you can confuse him with john carpenter. heck, petter carpenter started his acting career in a russ Meyer film. and then he made only two movies. BLOOD MANIA AND POINT OF TERROR. he is like Pierre Kirby in that there is little to no information regarding his surprising death in the mid 70s on IMDB or google or ANYWHERE!!!! and the two movies he made are obscure, exploitive skinemax movies. DO IT!
Seriously Brad, I have loved all your musical reviews this month. Keep up the good work man.
The 'asshole slut' part got me good. Same with the end clip 'Is this your bird?'... priceless.
Jessica Harper's Janet looks so much like Pam from the US Office it's scary.
And Richard O'Brien predicted Dean Pelton in this movie.
I'm hoping for the 1970s "Lost Horizon."
Grease 2, Xanadu, Glitter, The Jazz Singer, Sextette, Lost Horizon, Can't Stop the Music, Yentl?
Oh nonono, I'm going the wrong way here, it HAS to be High School Musical!
Ah Shocktreatment. There's a soft spot for that movie in my cold, sarcastic heart.
It's a weird movie, but most of the songs are so damn catchy.
Surprised you never mention that evil Cliff looks exactly like Peter Fonda.
Anyway, yeah, this is one of the most underrated 80s movies, especially when it comes to musicals and even sequels.
Funny, smart, memorable, catchy songs, awesome cast that has fun throughout the film (and Jessica is pretty sensual and hot, especially before they "improve" her looks), great satire, excellent over the top 80s vibe and intentional stylized kitschy look that you can't take your eyes from. One of the smartest musicals ever, and even people who don't like musicals (myself included) will probably have fun with it.
This and Roy Scheider's All that Jazz may just be the most entertaining and smart musicals of the circa 80s.
The adds made two big mistakes. Shitty nonsensical trailer (that actually put me off from finally seeing the movie for several years) and insistence that this is the Rocky Horror sequel, although it can't be more different. They should've promoted it's uniqueness and not try to convince people who expect more twisted shenanigans that this is more of the same only better.
I'm guessing your final review is either the sequel to Grease. However, that crazy Village People musical everyone laughs about but no one has actually seen (myself included) may be the wild card.
There' a Twin Peaks connection to All That Jazz . Ray Wise's character is named after the actress Leland Palmer and of course his alter ego is Bob.
Oh, and if you're a fan of the movie, or just curious, this fantastic Projection Booth podcast episode by Geek Juice's friends Mike White and "Mondo" Justin about the movie is a must hear, especially since they interview Cliff, the writer and Jessica Harper about the film's conception and shoot and how they see the movie now.
Oh god. Flash-backs of the Wow Wow Wibble Wobble Wazzy Woddle Woo come up everytime i hear "Bicthin in the kitchen and cryin in the bedroom all night." All i can think of is Tim Noah aimlessly floating in outer space thanks to an obvious mash potato high.
And speak of Tim Noah, the nerd here has a slight resemblance to the man child. What a small "Shocking" and "Wobbly" world.
just hope the next video doesn't have Tim Noah in it... he might lose his hair again!
glad to see some positive stuff about this movie. While I love Rocky Horror I listen to songs from this move a lot more. Shock Treatment and Night Night are both really good songs.
This movie is corny but not as bad as many other sequels.
Oh, Doctor Nation, I get it.
I saw 'Shock Treatment' on vhs in '03 and hated it, but this review has convinced me to try it again. Thanks, Brad
It did have more than a midnight-only release. I saw it at its premiere in Houston. It was a evening showing with Richard O'Brian making appearance. But then it showed for at least one week at a mainstream theater.
I have this sneaking suspicion that Brad is going to review Rock of Ages next. That look at the end kind of gives me that feeling <=/
no it wasn't Tim Curry i WISH, though i have met Meatloaf in (1999) i have met from RHPS, Meatloaf, Kimi O'brion that's Richard O'brien's ex wife. she was a riot actually i did some drinking with her. and what's pretty fucking sweet is my brother and a buddy of his threw a Con a few years back. they are HUGE Rocky fans. and
it was Perry beddon who i was thinking of. his Con was actually their last convention. they are funny as hell. and the nicest people.
what was awesome is that Kimi brought with her the model for the bedroom set for RHPS! it was fucking awesome man. it was i believe of Rocky's Bed. my brother though has met i think nearly the entire cast for Rocky Horror. i can't remember if he met Tim Curry or not. and Perry Beddon for what he looked like in RHPS was the guy taking a pictures at the start of the film i believe. the photographer i think. he was also a Transvette as well. in Shock treatment he had a small cameo as someone on the phone at the very start of the film. so my dvd i took it with me and showed it to the both of them. neither of them had seen it yet. and Kimi i would have had her sign it but she wasn't in that one. for me though i don't hate rocky it's an ok film to watch every once in a blue moon. but i prefer shock treatment over it. hell i even have on dvd cause christopher lee is in it. "The Return of Captain Invincible. a really weird Aussie film made in (1983) the music was written by Richard O Brien. and Jim Sharman i think produced it. i'd love to see that one snobbed. if you haven't seen that one it's a WTF hollywood film if i ever saw it.
Oh, well you got to meet others, that's cool. Sorry for my rants over nothing, everybody!
no harm done. one thing that did suck about the convention was that Jessica Harper was going to be there but had to cancel cause i think it was a wedding that she had to go to.
Loved the shout-out to Suspiria! I knew I'd seen the lead actress somewhere before.
i've enjoyed these musical March episodes.... in September, i hope the final part is Phantom of the Paradise... it's one of those films i always liked as a child for the catchy songs and very downer of an ending... please Brad make that next.
no make it Rocky Horror. i'd love if he did that one. Phantom also is a film i love as well. but Rocky is the #1 musical i'd love to see him do.
Even though you don't make much sense in the video it's good that this month will be finally over, though could you review some Italian movies please because they are my favorite.
Eh I didn't like this video.
What is with the influx of people bitching? I haven't seen this much crying since the Friday The 13th 3: 3D video. Jesus, if Snob is covering something you don't know or aren't interested in, just skip it that week. There are plenty of other updates of cool shit all over the site to keep you busy until he posts something you're interested it. You don't have to pay a dime for this level of entertainment, even though we probably should. Just be happy with that and stop your bitching.
Aww man, this is the second review in a row where several references are made to speed and people going fast without an accompanying Sonic The Hedgehog joke. I got spiky blue balls here, Brad.
Awesome bro review, broskis. All it needed was Josh Hadley stuffing a Coors Light up his ass to usher in the bropocalypse.
Brad, is Shock Treatment your favourite musical? If not, then what is?
God dammit Rocky Horror Picture Show. I didn't like you, you didn't deserver a sequel. Fuck off.
Is this whole cast high on Helium when they sing? O'Brien sounds like a woman, Little Nell sounds like a 2 year old.
Five Fs & No Fucks Given.
Well, it's from the 80s, so it already has significantly more tolerable music than Rocky Horror. Susan Sarandon's voice drove me nut in the first movie too.
"Move along now, Debra Harry has to sing about the rapture soon." XD
my dad is in the soundtrack of this movie. fun fact.
IMO much better film than Rocky Horror.
Also the lovely Jessica Harper should be in every. Film. Ever. Made.
a funny story for you folks, when my brother was showing Kimi-O'brien and Perry Beddon around Town, he took them to a variety of places to feed them, makes sense as they were his guests, anyways, he took them to a Cracker Barrell near the end of their stay and though i wasn't there i guess they don't have one of those in England and they loved it! my brother remarked they loved it so much that had i know they were going to react this way that's the only place i would have taken them.
it's funny to me because nobody around here ever gets that excited about a Cracker Barrel which is a Resteraunt that i think makes his food homemade ? they have good food actually for those who have never heard of it before.
sorry for my shitty spelling folks, sometimes it happens so when it does i like for people to know i'm aware of it that's all.
I recall seeing this episode pop up in a YouTube search I did before I ever started watching the Cinema Snob. I didn't watch it as I feared it would be the usual ST bashing. After I eventually got into the show and saw it, I was most grateful. I've been a hardcore RHPS fan for well over 20 years, but so few of the other Rocky fans I've known share my passion for ST. The only real reason they give is, "It's boring." (Which basically translates to, "There's no sex and the plot is slightly more complicated.") Then again, many of them have never watched Monty Python or MST3k, so one shouldn't set the bar too high with them. I think I tried explaining my love for Rik Mayall to one once and only got a blank stare. (For shame!) All that is to say, as I quit going to shows a few years ago, that it's nice to see someone watch ST and actually give it some thought. So thank you, Brad! This series is something fun that I can look forward to each week, the way I used to with Rocky.
Some of the older archived videos of 2009 were brought over from the youtube account before thecinemasnob.com was created, so please forgive the lesser video quality of such as some did not transfer well.