Is it just me or does that poster in Dave's hand look like an upside-down skull?
actually, now that you point it out. I see it too.
Actually its an upside down demon of sorts. Google the poster turn upside down theres even horns on it
Why was this taken off of youtube did somebody copyright Dave again
Well if they are in the same groups as Kirk Cameron and Ray Comfort, they may do a similar thing of dmca-ing without watching a second of the video.
Good thing they can't do that anymore.
This could just be my computer being slow, but is anyone else having a problem with the player for this video? It stops every ten seconds and then picks back up, but I mean like literally every ten seconds. It's annoying. And when I pause the video to make like the buffer go a little farther, it does nothing.
Try changing the video quality from Auto to 360p. It could be continuously stopping because the video keeps switching through quality settings.
But I can't find the button on the bottom to change the quality either.
That worked for a small handful of Linkara's videos but I don't see the video quality option anywhere on here. Nor does it have a link to the actual screenwave page like Blip videos did.
To Wesley - That's because there is no "actual Screenwave page." Screenwave doesn't have individual showpages like youtube and Blip had - it's ALL embed codes.
Try updating Flash
Works fine for me in Firefox
I'm in Chrome and I'm fine, kinda surprising considering how often I have problems with other video players.
I have the same problem, and it says my Flash is up to date. And when I try to run it in Firefox it says "Error loading media: File could not be played."
It got better after I restarted my computer (I use Firefox too). Maybe it's just some glitches with the site server, it's not Brad's fault.
@Jack: Oh, I never thought it was Brad's fault, seeing as I have the same problem when I watch stuff on Linkara's site. Except mine stops buffering every time I pause the video. So...no answering doors or phone calls while I'm watching stuff.
I swear to God, no pun intended, these movies are made to make Christians look bad. Not that these kind of psycho Christians don't exist, because ladies and gentlemen they do...just go to dyed-red state like Texas or Kentucky or remote parts of Oregon. But Christ was a socialist hippie and liberal Christians exist. Fun fact, btw, of the three major Abrahamic religions, Islam is the only one that allows for divorce and specifies how divorce should be conducted. On the plus side, it's directly stated that it needs to be a mutual and honorable agreement between both parties between each other and God...on the negative side, an Islamic divorce must be conducted while the woman is on her period.
I keep saying it, but it's Evangelicals making these films, because telling a story takes a back seat to trying to evangelise. It's a lecture to the audience, and the only ones who want to be lectured to are people who already agree.
Read the endorsements on the link below. a frightening amount of people think this way, apparently.
Thanks for the fun-fact!
The procedure for divorce is described in Leviticus and in the Talmud the Rabbis stated that in any divorce the future needs of the ex-wife always come first in determining how the assets are divided. It's pretty much the same as in the Quran and its commentary.
And those kind of insane Evangelicals for the most part exist in East Texas, not as much in the rest of the state.
That simply isn't true. Judaism condones the use if divorce; there are numerous laws in place that are specifically there to protect a woman and enforce financial obligations on man in a divorce scenario. Regardless of religious affiliation or lack thereof, I would suggest you look through the bible again on this matter. At least in its original Hebrew format, there is no mention whatsoever of a divorced woman falling into the same category as an adulteress, that doesn't make any sense, especially when taking into account the previous point.
There's this one:
11 Jesus answered, "Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her. 12 And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery."
"You can't fight in here, this is the War Room."
Also, speaking of Kirk Cameron:http://warroomthemovie.com/endorsements
Aw, man, I was just waiting for someone to make that reference! :D Wahoo! ^_^
This has been another episode of "Brad and Dave proving why religon and religious people are fucking idiots and should not be making fucking movies ever."
Religious people can and have made great movies.
It should be,
"Brad and Dave proving why ideologues are fucking idiots and should not be making fucking movies ever."
As a religious person, I am not idiot. It just movies like these are made by people how have no understanding of how to make a movie. Storytelling, narrative or how to make a point while no appearing to make the point. BTW I could make a similar argument using seth McFarlane and his idiocy but I don't.;
I'm religious as well and all the religious movies that Brad and co. review are all terrible. The problem with all of them is that they just preach to their own choir which limits their audience considerably. Movies with religious themes can work but they have to treated in an indirect manner to make it more accessible. they need to get a good idea to run with and make a good film from that as opposed to beating people over the head with kitsch and overly goody goody crap. And they really need to learn how to shoot, edit and present films. This is direct to video quality. These are garbage. Keep up the good work Brad and Dave. You guys make my day.
I'm pretty sure they like Alfred Hitchcock and Martin Scorsese (among others). It's not that they're Christians, it's that they're incompetent cunts who somehow got a couple grand and a camera.
are you ever going to review a movie called Dark Places it came out a few weeks ago but I am not sure if it is playing in Springfield. I liked the book and I want to hear your thoughts on the film
Hey I just recorded a review for this film. PRAISE JEBUS!!! You should check it out once it's uploaded tomorrow.
Yikes this movie sounds like an anxiety attack
mmmhmm grandma!! xD
Ah brad nooo ..pray it forward....nooo
I think that's the point with military and religion with recent trump love
I imagine you're building a secret collection of all these bad movie posters and flyers on like a collage or something. I can easily see the "War Room" flyer in between the collectible poster of "The Identical" and your big poster of "The Loft."
*Grabs popcorn and 3D glasses*
Well, to be fair, speaking objectively, all pharmaceutical companies are filled with drug dealers and drug pushers.
Gotta love vicious Dave.
One of you guys got food poisoning and couldn't see the movie? Like the shitty husband in the movie? IT'S DIVINE INTERVENTION!!!!
Seriously, this movie sound like it was made by the sect the Duggers belong to except that they had to give the wife a job so that she'd meet Auntie Stereotype for the plot. And now they've decided to start a Crusade (please tell me that word was never used).
Just hearing you talk about this,though...got an underlying thing of maybe things might have been better in the marriage if she'd just had had a son.... Like he can't stand having to deal with women that he has to talk to more than once or twice.
But, thanks for watching these movies for us. A lot of the time I'm watching your reviews of things that I have no interest in seeing but I'd still like to know about and your interpretations are 10 x's better.
God, I really hope you make a religious film and I hope people take it seriously and genuinely enjoy it as a religious film
So this was Brad's gift to Dave to celebrate the engagement? Sure glad he enjoyed himself then
It's a religious film; I'm sure Brad would've taken him regardless.
And by the way, congratulations to the happy couple. :)
Man, I really hope Screenwave is an acceptable alternative to Blip because the sooner you get out of youtube again, the better. Unless Youtube is fielding copyright claims from Ford (or whatever) for filming inside their car, they have no claim against two dudes sitting in a car. The only reason why I'd use Youtube still is if it gave me quite a bit more money than Screenwave... Even then, knowing you could wake up one morning and you find out 3 eps are taken down due to fraudulent claims would make me go to Screenwave.
Pray it forward. That's ingeniously terrible. Brad, I think you broke Dave when you said that.
Oh....and you mention watching this in a double feature...
Might make a good companion to one of the versions of Stephen King's "Carrie" ("Go to your closet and pray!")
"Stop using prayer as a weapon!" *Pat Benatar*
Wait, Brian got food poisoning... Must be divine intervention. God does not want people to see this movie. PRAISE JEBUS.
Brian seems to have the worst luck of the whole gang.
Car troubles, appendix bursting (or whatever), food poisoning....Sucks to be him.
Brad comes in second in the bad luck department, with the whole epilepsy, randomly falling off decks thing.
You're saying that not seeing this movie is BAD luck?
Brad did get hit by the food poisoning fairy earlier...
Hmmmm, could the nefarious "Mr. Eggroll" be to blame for poor Bri too?
Is "Mr. Eggroll" Springfield's greatest Super Villain ?!
Dave's reaction to the Pray It Forward remark reminds me why I look forward to these videos. Ah, I love that shit.
And speaking of shit, and youtube flagging this video, they have seriously got to drop the auto-policing bullshit-system they've got set up. I know it doesn't have the catchy ring of "Dammit, Blip", but god DAMMIT, Youtube.
I'll stick with War Room on ColecoVision where you fight giant chickens Thank you very much
I actually don't think that whole "if you marry a divorced woman, you're an adulterer" thing is in the Bible. If I recall correctly, the Bible actually does spell out certain situations that are grounds for divorce. And my pastor always said that while divorcing your spouse is a sin, if two people hate each other then they're already divorced.
That's the crazy thing about the kind of Christians who make these movies, they say they're obeying the Bible, but they actually take it FURTHER than what the Bible actually says.
It's in the New Testament, in Matthew 19. Under Old Testament rules, a man could divorce his wife for various and sundry reasons, but a divorced woman couldn't remarry and was basically financially and socially screwed. And, unlike most modern-day Evangelicals, Jesus was a fairly big supporter of not screwing women over.
Jew speaking, not Christian, but Maimonedes says that if a man won't give his wife a divorce, she can just hire some thugs to beat it out of him and God will be cool with it. This is not unheard of in very religious circles, though it is not strictly legal.
Christian injunctions against divorce were pretty much borrowed from ancient Greek philosophy about there only being one person because our souls are conjoined before birth and shit.
It's scary that these kind of backwards fuckwits have the money to make so many movies.
Getting the money to make the movies isn't the scary part. They're film on the cheap, most likely with actors working for scale. Even "bigger" budget ones like "God's Not Dead" aren't really that expensive, since they don't have huge names in them.
What IS scary is that these POS actually MAKE MONEY! That is, enough people WANT to see them that they still want to make them.
That's one reason why I will never go to a theatre to watch any of these, just on principle alone, although thankfully it's rare that any of them actually come to a theatre near my place anyway. Kinda odd considering I'm near Toronto, but then again it's not exactly the bible belt.
Most of the time crew works for low to no pay too. Usually those with equipment/skill get paid at least something, but usually the PA's, 2, 3 ADs, camera ops, don't get paid. Same for extras and the no name actors.
Also, I live where they shot this and I followed someone that worked on this movie(I almost worked with the person on another movie of his own) and this movie was shot in secret... you know, cus of the whole war on Christians and people wouldn't let them make it if they knew a christian move was being made in town. (Personally I think they did it so they could get crew to work for nothing without it getting out and making a fuss)
Definitely contender for worst film of the year.
Congratulations on the engagement, Dave!
Sorry about having to sit through the shitty movie. There's a reason none of the 62 films I've seen so far this year have been "faith" films.
OMG! I saw the book at work at Walmart. Had no idea that they made a film off this. Oh god this sounds truly atrocious! Seriously Christians need to stop making films till they understand cinematography, acting and telling a compelling narrative. I'm not a believer but at the same time I do think you can do a good faith based film. I feel it's possible and want them to succeed I don't wish anyone to fail even if I don't personally agree with their faith.
These people don't want to engage audiences. They would much rather go down in a blaze of glory because it flatters their sense of martyrdom.
I feel bad for Dave. I hope these type of "movies" don't ruin the rest of his day/night. I would have walked right out of that prehistoric, puritan, patriarchal pos.
Brad, do you need some more Bibleman DVDs? I have a local movie shop with a butt ton of them, mainly from the post Willie Aames era where it's all high tech and even more bigoted. I'll gladly send you some if you want. :D
Let me start by saying I'm a devout Lutheran. My mom's been through two divorces and she's still a devout Lutheran too, as is our whole family. Heck, we're even pretty conservative (though it's a very easy-going conservative guided by a lot of reason, not that Bible-belt, fundamentalist crap that so many yahoos seem fond of these days). These movies offend me as a Christian because it's nothing but people deciding to play to a stereotype, the lowest common denominator. Having lived through my mom's two divorces, I can tell you that both times she tried marriage counseling, she had support from our family, friends, church, many, many people, and, on a personal level, we found support in our faith as well. She fought for her marriages and prayed to God as well, but in both circumstances it ultimately wasn't meant to be, and even going through them, she still was loved by so many people.
I certainly believe that prayer is a powerful thing that Christians should make a regular part of their lives, but again, just because you're a Christian, that doesn't mean you pretend not to live in the real world where there are so many pro-active ways you can live out your faith. With something like a failing marriage, God would want you to ultimately do whatever is best for you and, if you have a family, your children, and most Christians I know believe this as well. Most Christians I know are also hungry for quality media properties that have Christian themes, and that's why these so-called movies are so insulting. Their makers wear it as a badge of honor that they don't meet Hollywood standards, but in reality, that's a load of BS designed to sway Christian audiences that this is quality stuff. What I say to that, I can sum up in an apocryphal quote attributed to Martin Luther: "The Christian shoemaker does his duty not by putting little crosses on the shoes, but by making good shoes, because God is interested in good craftsmanship." Christian movie-makers, either work your tails off to improve your craftsmanship until you're making quality stuff, or sit down, shut up, and stop pushing out drivel that isn't worthy of any audience, sends poor messages to Christians, and represents us poorly to non-Christians. Give us a Passion of the Christ, a Luther, a Ben-Hur, a The Hiding Place, give us something that, even if it's not everyone's taste, its quality cannot be denied. Love the Lord by actually doing your damn job to the best of your ability, and if what we're getting right now is your best, then stop making movies, because you're doing more harm than good!
And for the love of god stop trying to pull Old Testament laws bullshit. The New Testament explicitly replaces all the nonsense about shrimp and whatnot.
I'm sure in some way these movies can be considered as blasphemy. They seem like such a vulgar use of God and Christ.
For anyone they mislead in any way, Christian or non-Christian, certainly. There's nothing praiseworthy or God-honoring about doing any job poorly, especially when you're supposedly doing something in His name. Misrepresenting Him only makes a poorly made film worse, at least in a Christian like myself's eye.
Why can't we Christians do things right!?
It hurts me. And the worst part is that I have friends who will love this because it talks about Jesus regardless of literally everything else the film offers. Yes, I am a Christian and I do believe Jesus is a wonderful person who is the Lord and died for our eternal salvation and it's a wonderful thing, but if we're going to have people take us seriously and not dismiss Jesus as a joke we need to eradicate these films. Absolutely obliterate them. Stop supporting them.
Preaching to the choir I know since I'm on this website but it keeps... getting... worse...
I'm pretty sure this movie's in direct violation of Commandment #3.
I'd pay actual money to watch a live read of this script at a con with Fat Grandma in the role of Clara.
Martin Scorsese is a Christian as was Hitchcock. They made some pretty good films. I'm pretty certain a lot of people throughout the world as well as the history of film have been religious and made decent films. The thing about these films is that they are Christian in a narrowly defined very American and in truth fairly recent usually politically specific sense. They're essentially propaganda films aimed at a demographic of proselytising evangelical Christianity.
I don't think anyone needs to apologize for stepping out of a movie for a moment in these reviews.Especially because listening to brad try to explain what happened in the absence is always hilarious.
I'm no atheist but the whole premise of this movie is so disgusting, I can't even stomach the whole review, never mind the actual thing.
What kind of candy was Dave eating?
Goobers, the only real movie candy!!!!
This close-minded propaganda pretending to be "what God wants" makes sensible religious people look bad. Just because you're a Christian doesn't mean you're a hateful chauvinist who takes everything in the Bible literally, but those sorts of people are often the loudest and make others think that's what all Christians are like.
Despite being a Christian myself, I would rather be associated with atheists who can think and tell me why they are atheists than with Christians who are too narrow-minded to consider that their beliefs aren't necessarily the only ones God will accept. I haven't watched this movie, because it's not showing where I live (and I doubt it will be any time soon, because we only got "God's Not Dead" last month), but the trailer already told me that it's not going to have any fair or well-thought out arguments. These sorts of movies are so pointless, because they aren't going to benefit anyone who doesn't already believe exactly what they say, and they certainly aren't going to convert anyone to their way of thinking.
What audience is this shitty movie supposed to appeal to? People who want to watch bad movies for a laugh? Or are they honestly making this movie for Christians? From what I have been hearing about this movie in this video, is this movie made for psychotic religious nut jobs?
I swear to god this film sounds like the complete opposite of heaven and more like cinematic hell than anything else. A hell full of terrible jokes, heavy handed messages, terrible characters, flat directing, and bad performances by the cast.
God bless you Brad and Dave for sitting through this crapfest and making this video so I don't have to ever subject my eyes to this film ever in my lifetime. Thanks for sacrificing yourselves for this movie's sins so I don't have to suffer.
So turns out that this movie's gonna make money. A LOT of money. Like possibly more than God's Not Dead.
Old Fashioned, Hot Tub Time Machine 2, Vacation, Unfinished Business, The Gallows, and now War Room. Worst of the year list is going to be fun to watch, I bet Ted 2 is pushed out when it's all said and done.
And now you can throw Unsullied into that pile.
I wonder if he is going to tie Ted 2 with Hot Tub Time Machine 2 since there both comedy sequels. Of course Vacation itself is also a sequel they might as well be placed within a three way tie. Sort of like his 2013 Worst Movies of the Year list with #8 ( Movie 43, Scary Movie 5 and Haunted House).
Fun fact: the same part of the Bible that talks about homosexuality and shrimp also says divorce is totally okay.
As a bad movie junkie, I would love to see these poorly-made preachy evangelical Christian films like Saving Christmas and God's Not Dead... But I don't because I know it'll hurt my religious faith and it's damaged enough as is.
So I thank Brad and Dave for sitting through this crap for me.
Imagine a movie about devout muslims used the kind of violent rhetoric that the crazy old lady uses in this one. The same people who praise this here thing would go apeshit...
Yeah, but this is a *Christian* movie! It's completely different when you're threatening people's lives in the name of the Lord! /s
The same Lord as in Islam?
Christians, you can't preach in here. This is the War Room!
Pause the video at 17:16.
This new fucking video player loads way too slowly for my tastes. I wanna see the God damn review, God fucking damn it!
God used to be real into footbaths, you guys.
I guess the fundamentalist Christfags aren't cool enough to realize that was a phase God went through.
There's another religous movie coming out in two weeks. Its called Five Minutes in Heaven staring Kate Bosworth and none other then Hayden Christensen. Dont know if you got the trailer for that.
So yeah, I'm surprised to find myself defending this movie. It wasn't really that good and it sounds like I had the same annoying audience as described in the video, but some of the things you guys accused the movie of saying didn't seem to be intended by the filmmakers at all to me. It just wasn't very well presented for those outside of the southern-baptist culture. A lot of metaphors, exaggerations and "christian-eze." Some people have become accustomed to hearing their particular pastor preach that way and are able understand what he intends. That carries over into how they talk and how they make and view films; alienating what they intend to say from most other people without realizing it. This is the problem with this and most of the "christian films" coming out recently. Although I think God's Not Dead was far, FAR worse than this.
You guys made some good points though. I'm a HUGE fan of Midnight Screenings and am always fascinated and entertained by watching you guys rip to shreds the films of which most in my community annoyingly ignore the flaws. Keep it up!
I totally missed the "I don't know how to submit to him anymore" line. Yeeeaaaahhhhh that's an extremely bad choice of wording.............................
What are some of the explanations behind some of the scarier parts of this and similar movies?
Yeah, well, excuse me if this doesn't pertain to you, but any group that tries to tell you that all your problems are caused by literal demons in your house, that you shouldn't divorce your abusive husband because it's a sin, to pray and form a militia for a theocratic government and to force your beliefs on others (and that anyone that tells you that maybe you shouldn't is an automatic enemy against God), that you need prayer more than trained professionals, that wives are to submissive doormats to their husbands, etc, is in all likelihood a fucking cult, "Oh, they didn't mean to say it like *that*" be damned.
Which group in particular because you just described every religion.
I will agree with one thing promoted by this movie (or at least its advertising). The poster Dave's holding appears to quote Matthew 6:6, in which the Christ instructs his followers to pray alone in private (having, in the preceding verse, identified those who pray in public as “hypocrites,” whose only reward will be the brownie points they score with other mortals for being seen praying). Those who rail against the prohibition of state-sponsored prayer should probably re-read that passage a few times.
That's one of my favorites.... I love pulling that excerpt out at some yahoo religi-bashing me. Think I use it more than any other of my go-to quotes.
Did you get the trailer for "Freeheld" before this movie? According to the Deluxe Digital Cinema site, at least some theaters are supposed to show that movie's trailer before War Room. Considering the subject matter of Freeheld, it would be kind of...interesting to see it promoted before a movie like this.
Always fun to see you guys react to these movies, though it does suck that these movies continue to blow this hard. I don't want movies to suck, faith oriented or not, so it'd be nice for one of these films to be so good it leaves me and everyone else speechless. Dave's absolutely right that they're propaganda films, we all deserve better. On the positive side, it's fun to laugh at how insane this shit is, so it's not entirely a bust. Small bit of trivia, though, the feet thing isn't entirely out of nowhere: It's a big deal to be able to wash someone's feet, and it's supposed to be very Christ-like. Hell, I've been in church where there was an entire service based around feet-washing. Granted, it sounds crazy, and out of nowhere, so I get Brad's reaction, because I'd mirror it if I wasn't aware of that detail. Here's hoping you guys see something better soon.
I kind of like them being this bad. It's funnier, and it makes the propaganda less effective.
It is kind of creepy that these movies make so much money and that there's people who think like this, though.
That's kinda my point; I want these movies to justify an audience and the money they make.
Onward Christian Soldier Brad...
I can't be angry at people like this woman in the movie. She's obviously been taught her entire life that that's what being a "good person" means. She's as pure a victim as one could ask for. It's everyone around her that taught her to believe those things, THEY are the ones that deserve our hatred in this thing.
I'm a Christian, and I'm baffled at why Evangelical Christians seem to love to put out these insane movies! I'm for injecting a little Christianity in a secular world, but please, make better movies!
(And it baffles me further how War Room made $11 million last week, while Man from UNCLE only got $4 million! What's up with that???)
And, the sad thing is that I'll go to church and choir practice within the next couple weeks, and I'll hear how good this movie is and how I should definitely see it (because I'm a movie fan and movie!) Nope. Not seeing it. All of these movies sound terrible.
But, I may have an explanation for you why all the war imagery and violent talk:
When you were describing the call to arms, I started thinking of Ephesians 6:10-18:
"Finally, be strong in the Lord and in His mighty power. Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. In addition to all of this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord's people."
All the militaristic imagery & speechifying isn't really surprising.
Fundies LOVE tossing it around; it's what they're known for.....
Comes down to their 3 main precepts - God, Gold, and Guns.
Btw, if these 'buffet-style Christians' actually were true literalists to the OT, they'd be in deep doo-doo trying to adhere to all of it. There's 76 things banned in Leviticus (I won't list all of them but a choice few):
48. Holding back the wages of an employee overnight (19:13)
53. Seeking revenge or bearing a grudge (19:18)
54. Mixing fabrics in clothing (19:19)
55. Cross-breeding animals (19:19)
56. Planting different seeds in the same field (19:19)
60. Trimming your beard (19:27)
61. Cutting your hair at the sides (19:27)
62. Getting tattoos (19:28)
65. Not standing in the presence of the elderly (19:32)
66. Mistreating foreigners – “the foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born” (19:33-34)
68. Cursing your father or mother (punishable by death) (20)
72. Working on the Sabbath (23:3)
73. Blasphemy (punishable by stoning to death) (24:14)
75. Selling land permanently (25:23)
Ah....fun, fun, and more fun ;)
To piggy-back off your post,
When I was in college, I had a very fundamental Christian on my floor. One Sunday, this fundamental Christian was church-hunting and went to church with a mutual friend (she had already rejected my church--too liberal), when she came back to our floor. I asked her how she liked the mutual friend's church. She thought my church was better, as the mutual friend had a female minister and female ministers would lead their flock to Hell.
I asked where she's getting that from.
"From the Bible!"
So, I grabbed my Bible. She grabbed hers. I asked her if she follows every little thing in the Bible. She does. I told her that a lot of these commands were things that happened during that time and place. In that society, women were considered to be less than slaves and even dogs. So having a woman being a leader would have been absolutely taboo. This has changed. Society has changed.
She said that God does not. I do agree with that.
But, I asked her about cutting her hair. It was shoulder-length. Obviously she gets her hair cut. The Bible forbids that. Here's the passage...
How about mixing fabrics of clothing? I was pretty sure that shirt she was wearing wasn't 100% cotton. Here's the passage...
Oh, thinking of clothes, you're wearing jeans. The Bible says that women shouldn't wear man's clothes and men shouldn't wear women's clothes. Here's the passage...
Does she wear hats to church? No. Why not? Paul writes that women should wear hats to church. They need to keep their hair covered so that men wouldn't be tempted by them. Here's the passage...
I had her so confused that she called her preacher and raised my questions. Unfortunately, her preacher said that she was absolutely correct and I was absolutely wrong.
I also think that they were convinced that the devil was speaking Biblical passages through my words. Because I'm OK with allowing women ministers I'm evil! EVIL! EVIL!!!!!!
(And I can't remember the passages right now).
I have a friend that is a clerk at a family owned business selling religious fare, and he had one of these kinds of conversations with a patron. By the end he had her convinced that everything she ever believed was wrong, and he told her that he was leaving to go and confess for that conversation.
Wow, I like the visuals of a 'bible face-off'.... let's make a movie out of that.... 'Battling Bibles'!
I want to make a version of this movie. The first part of the movie would be the same. But when the old woman shows her "war room" and hands the wife a book, we wouldnt see the room or the book. When wife decides to do her war room when then see the war room is full of demonic symbols and the book would be some dark witchcraft book. She uses the dark arts to torture her husband. End of the movie husband is sent to jail because the demons frame him for murder, wife and daughter have a new life as demon summoners.
I have been....away for a time...but I am so glad I come back to the site to see this! I have waited for this shit!
This might be long but Dave always comes off in these videos as that one guy people never invite to go out and do things with them because they're always cynically complaining about everything. I know Brad likes putting him in the Religious videos for the awkward comic relief since he's an atheist but Dave always does the same thing. He always does the I'm an atheist thing and I respect other peoples religions and then make some pretty harsh and insulting statement against the people that practice it. It's like... the well I'm respectful to people that practice religion, and then it's your make believe God propaganda he'll say with some added insults.
It's like come on buddy stop trying to politely be an asshole to people that practice religion because you want to be an atheist and for the record why do atheist always attack Christianity? but never Judaism or Islamism? or Buddhists? Anyone ever notice that how they always zero in at Christianity. Like they go hunting for Christians just to tell them they're atheist? You think the Bible is crazy there's waaaaaaaaaaaaay more stricter life styles to follow in the Qua-ran and Torah. Especially the Torah. As someone that grew up in a Jewish neighborhood Christianity is like the public school of religions when it comes to Judaism or Islamism which are like the elite private schools of religion with all their rules.
I guess I just don't get that about atheists they always have their I'm better than you because I don't believe in God scopes dialed in at Christianity.
As for the Movie it just sounded like a religious/comedy about the power of faith. I guess if you're not religious yourself or practice religion something just seem strange. Like praying to a fallen meteorite, or only eating foods that follow a religious diet. In Christianity the marriage or bond between a man and a woman is sacred, actually that's just about every religion not just Christianity that has strict laws against marriage. The War room is about the power of prayer and trying to turn a bad marriage around with it instead of just giving up on it. I got that from the review but sometimes Dave makes statements that really are insulting to people. Mocking somone's religion is never cool are that funny to me but trying to say that all Christians think is if you have a bad marriage is to pray to God and do nothing about it is really a stretch. That's just what this movie's plot is it's not a brochure for how Christians handle relationship issues. A lot of Church's have marriage counselors and offer relationship counseling not here take a bible and pray your problems away. I guess I just didn't like the broad statements that seemed to come off in this video about Christianity and I'm not even a religious person.
Uh huh. Except you seem to be making the same kind of broad statements that you accused Dave of. In every one of these videos Dave explicitly states that he's not talking about all Christians, he's just talking about the people who made this movie and the issues he has with the movie's message.
I guess what I dislike is that when Brad and his friends review religious movies they're not just bashing the movie for it being a bad movie but they bash the religion behind it as well. Brad kind of stays on topic of just talking about what's bad about the movie but Dave always turns it into an opportunity for religious bashing on behalf of his "Well, I'm an atheists".
Except that that's not true at all. Dave and I both make it a point several times to not just talk about the serious problems with these movies' filmmaking as well as the harmful messages a lot of them contain, but also how we're not bashing all of Christianity or Christians in general. We've gone through great lengths talking about those in our family who are Christians, and in my case, the schools that I went to.
We've literally said how most Christians are good loving people. But we're not talking about those people, we're talking about the people who put out a movie that says you need to empty out your closet and just pray for divine intervention to give your husband food poisoning so he won't cheat on you. We're talking about the people who made a movie last year that says the cure for postpartum depression is a good night out with the girls. Even in our review for Little Boy, we said that while that movie was a little corny, it was the only one of these movies that actual was about Christianity.
I understand Brad but I watch a lot of the Midnight screenings and Dave puts a lot of religious attacks against people in his reviews as soon as religion is involved it's way different that when you just do a normal movie with him we've all seen him address a bad movie but when it comes to religion in general he always does these things where he'll say "Well I know not all Christians are like this and I respect people religions even though I'm an atheist, and then he'll make a broad statement that's against all people that practice Christianity or Christian beliefs in general and that's why it's offensive to veiwers. It's not addressed at a movie when you say "Christian Bullsh**, and you're make believe God, and religious propaganda that's against someones faith in general not about a movie being bad because the plot was terrible. I'm not a religious person and still see that as being offensive to viewers that are of any religion checking out your movie reviews and I'm usually the last person to complain but it is pretty offensive. I'm quite sure the movie itself is pretty stupid the way they executed it I'm not defending that just how overly aggressive Dave's attitude is toward religion.
You could say "Well I thought the movie was silly because it sends a message that all you need to do is pray to turn your situation around and it might take more than just that to help a bad marriage."
Not "Well I'm an atheist and this is Christian bullsh**, They believe all you need to do is pray to a make believe God and do nothing else and that will fix your marriage, It's so stupid I'm tired of this religious propaganda".
Those are things Dave actually says in religious movie reviews. Which gets the message across that the plot was bad while being the least offensive to viewers?
Sara and Brian really took the high road but Dave always takes the low road when doing religious movie reviews. I'm just pointing that out. Its kind of insulting to people that do practice religion because it's a statement that goes beyond just a bad movie.
Except you're the only person who seems to be offended by this, as most Christians who come to this site know exactly what Dave is talking about, and actually hear what he's saying in terms of "I know not every Christian is like this, I'm just talking about the bullshit in this movie." You seem to just be looking for something to get offended at because you're ignoring what both Dave and I have said countless and countless times in these reviews.
Dave and I also repeatedly said in this video how the message of this movie is harmful and how there are other ways to try to fix your marriage, and we even talked about different ways you could fix your message, and how a problem with the movie was that it wasn't simply a bad marriage, it was a verbally abusive one.
By the way, it is religious propaganda. Handbooks are being sold to not just adults, but to children and teenagers in regards to the message that this movie is putting forward. You can agree with the message or disagree, but it is propaganda. It's just poorly made and poorly acted propaganda. Dave has talked repeatedly about how these movies do a disservice to the fundamentals of Christianity and how they're a completely poor representation of Christianity. That's hardly bashing all of Christianity. Again I point to the Little Boy review and how both of us said that that movie was the first one of these movies we reviewed that actually was about Christianity.
You seem to be confusing Dave with the Amazing Atheist. An angry, bitter, aggressive atheist like you seem to think Dave is wouldn't say something like "if religion makes you happy, and it makes you a better person, and if it's an important thing in your life, then awesome, that's great." Which is what Dave and I say all the time so that people know that we're not bashing religion in general. Even Christians who come to this site know that we're not bashing the entirety of a religion. We're bashing the groups that make harmful movies like this and batshit crazy shit like Saving Christmas.
Part of what we say is how this movies are actually harmful TO Christianity, not that they're harmful BECAUSE of Christianity. I've known Dave for over 30 years. Dave doesn't care what you or anyone else's religion is. But when there's some twisted shit in your movie, all of us are going to call it out.
@YourBucket I am a Christian, and given you're not even religious, maybe you should stop getting offended and speaking on my behalf. We don't need you white knighting us; every Christian on this board and every board for the religious movies Brad and Dave reviewed know exactly what they're talking about, and nothing they're saying is offensive.
I'm also Christian, and I'm not really offended by anything in this review, either. I expect that most of the religious people I know wouldn't get offended by it, because neither Dave nor Brad is attacking all Christians. They're absolutely right in calling this propaganda, because that is what this movie is. It does not show how to have a healthy marriage. There comes a time when praying in your closet isn't good enough; God doesn't want people to just pray, you need to actually do things to change your situation. It's not offensive to point out when a movie has a harmful message.
Shogunday & Beatrix you can be anything you want on the internet. "I am Christian" is irrelevant statement unless I see you sitting in church with your bible in your hands. So you can save those comments and hold off your ad hominem attacks because I'm not interested in bickering with random people who can pretend to be anything or anyone on the internet.
@YourBucket You know what dude. Fucking stop. Seriously. Let it the fuck go. When you ignore what people say just because "oh they could be lying so I'm going to ignore them," you need to fucking stop. Right goddamn now. After all, we don't literally see you dressed as a white knight right now, so how do we really know you actually are one.
I'm going to have to agree with him, not because I'm religious but because your stupid fucking captcha shit is blocking me from posting when I am clearly typing in the words correctly. Brad, how could you let this happen?
There's a right way and wrong way to do things the fact that I even bothered to comment and point out what I saw as being offensive to people in this video is proof of that itself. Instead of understanding people want to defend it and that's exactly how you know it's wrong.
You don't need to defend something that's right. Dave only brings up his atheism to make a point on his stand against religion other than that there's no reason to even mention it if you're just reviewing a movie. I don't need to bring up my driving record to talk about Fast and the Furious 7 because it has nothing to do with the movie unless you're trying to make a personal statement which Dave always does. When he says "Christians" and then implies a derogatory statement behind the religion of Christianity that's not reviewing a movie.
I never had a problem with Dave being an atheist just when he makes statements that can be considered religious bashing because that's exactly what they are. Saying that you understand "some people are like this" doesn't give you a free pass to bash people that are also under that same umbrella. It's what people do all the time as some sort of "run around" from taking responsibility for their actions or things they might say. If it's offensive, it's offensive. If it's just you and your friends that cool but when it's online and public people are going to make their own opinion of it and that's what I'm doing. Dave says things he should probably keep to himself because it lowers the video.
Fine, I'll stop commenting. I realise now that it's pointless, since you're not listening to what any of us are saying, anyway.
@Beatrix Don't worry, I'm not going to repeat what I said either, it'll just get ignored for the 12th time.
It's no use..... he's too busy with his Soap Box and his Sandwich Board to have a two-way conversation....
Why isnt this movie sparking alot of outrage with feminists? This seems like a legitimately misogynistic, backwards, piece of shit.
Instead we get a bunch of articles about how Metal Gear Solid V is sexist because Quiet shows her cleavage. I guess attacking a popular video game will generate more clicks.
lol, now Content ID seems to be Ilegal after that dancing baby case.
Has anyone seen advertisements on youtube for this stupid thing?
Apparently, it was the number 1 movie in America; if that's the case, then the people who went to this movie must have either been blind idealists or have guns pointed at them to make sure they bought tickets