I miss Jerrid dearly, but I absolutely LOVE Brad x Jill eps.
so Transcendence is basically a reboot of 'the lawnmower man'?
You didn't get that from the previews?
Like Real Steel with Rock'em Sock'em Robots, I saw this from trailer one. :p
Yeah but Real Steel was awesome. Just like Rock'em Sock'em Robots. Could've used less dancing though.... Eh.
I Always assumed Real Steel was supposed to be a reboot of "Steel", the Twilight Zone episode about boxing robots, but then again I never saw Real Steel.
This to me seemed more like the last part of the First Deus Ex game mixed with Lawnmower Man.
I almost expected this song to play during the end credits! I wonder if that's what Weird Al was warning us about!
Even though I thought it was OK, I'm with Brad! The movie didn't work for me. I know that Wally Pfister was trying to be like Christopher Nolan, but failed badly. If I wanted to see a new Nolan movie, I'll have to wait until Interstellar comes out later this year!
At least I'm glad my theater was smart enough not including A Haunted House 2 proving that there is a shred of humanity left in this world!
So I keep seeing this ad:
... The snob totally sold out, you guys. Looks like he's having a blast, though.
Those anti-tech guys are blood hungry bunch of dumb-assholes, even in asshole crimical's perspective! They could've have laced bullet with fast acting poison such as nicotine to the blood. But, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~ They had to use (relatively) slow acting poison~! Brad's right, that Dumbass righting!
All wife should have done is talk Depp into right direction (at least try to) or engage constructive debate just like what Brad said. OK, the "mind hijack" part would freak out anyone, but still, engaging debate seem to be worth a try! i don't even have to bringing it Fallout New Vegas's wonderful DLC: Old World Blues to point this out!
Depp might lost humanity to certain degree, but most of his deeds are quite nice, and only (super major) asshole thing Depp did (as far as I can think of) was to install program to hijack people's conscience. It seem to be one of the foot hold research to bring his body back to the world, but still.. that wasn't nice. That mistake made people realize what Depp's capable of, but Depp's been reasonable dude... TRY TO TALK TO HIM WOULDN"T HURT THAT MUCH!
Oh Dear! You are lucky that there's NO showing of UNDER THE SKIN! In this movie the 2nd most interesting thing there was man with deformed face, but the most interesting thing was the RINGTON FROM FELLOW MOVIE VIEW'S CELL PHONE. SHOWING EFFECT AT THE END OF THE MOVIE DOESN"T MAKE THIS SCI FI!
I think Cillian Murphy looks more like Smeagol than a pumpkin.
Brad hated this for the same reason I liked it. It's a much better movie if you look at it from the point of view of Depp being a good guy.
So does Brad hate Star Wars because the rebels were terrorists also?
The Rebel Alliance blow up a super laser designed as a weapon of terror and which has already been used to destroy an entire planet. To call that terrorism is a bit of a stretch.
The rebels killed a bunch of innocent people on the Death Star, just like Superman did in Man of Steel.
They didn't kill innocents until Jedi, and we all know that personal politics are important to independent contractors.
Well they certainly did recruit Ewoks (children) to fight a war against an enemy that wasn't attacking Endor. The rebellion are assholes.
Eh, the Ewoks were gonna cook Han Solo. Using them as cannon fodder is totally justified.
i think jillian needs a few lessons in transhumanism
if nayone is interested in a transhuman roleplaying game check out Eclipse Phase: http://www.gamefront.com/files/?filepath=bloodreign//pen-paper-rpg/Eclipse-Phase/Books/Core%20Books/Eclipse_Phase%20Core%20Book.pdf
It ended in a 403 forbidden site; did I do something wrong? <.<
don't think so. double check for missing characters but that website does not service all countries
Brad, you simply hated these movies because you saw them on the weekend that you should have been getting your Christ on by seeing Heaven is For Real!
Don't worry, we'll be gettin our Christ on this week =)
What about Jake and Rio 2? Bears?
I swear, if "Gettin our Christ on" does not get uttered at least ONCE in that review...
Brad is prejudiced against doll fucking.
Don't hate bro.
I like the Jillian and Brad reviews because their is always a disagreement. No offense to the other reviews because they are good but most of the time it's just two people agreeing with each other. It's nice to see a disagreement but it seems Jillian can be a little sensitive by thinking Brad is being mean.
Is it weird that I noticed and hated all of the same things about Transcendence that Brad brings up, but I still kind of enjoyed it?
I mean, some of the film I found intriguing, while, many other elements are incredibly stupid. The biggest what the fuck moment for me was when Kate Mara was standing on the roof of a building WITH THE FBI AGENT IN CHARGE, directing an assault on Johnny Depp's compound. Seriously? They'd just let a known terrorist who's killed hundreds of people take charge of an operation like that?
In the end, though, I found it more interesting to consider the idea that the film was putting forth -- Depp becomes GOD, in a sense. Imagine that. I dunno....
Just because you like anime doesn't mean you should excuse horrible shit heaps like this movie because it plays out like one of those awful 90's sci-fi OVA's. I like the themes and ideas this movie brings up but I like those things when they pop up in anything, it doesn't excuse the rest of the movie being a steaming pile of utterly silly BS.
Couldn't agree with brad more.
Yeah, I watch a lot of anime and some of it is really terrible, it can still be fun, but that does not mean that it was not horribly written, or just mindless fun. Some people seem to mix up things that geeks like and stuff that is actually smartly written though.
Whoa Whoa let it go broski live and let live now I haven't seen this " Transcendence" movie but I happen to know that it is one of the finest films ever made and those so called "awful 90's OVA's" you speak of? Well if you don't like 1990's Chinese Sci-fi animation you're not American, and let me tell you something brother sometimes after a late night of working in the factory you just wanna come home kick off your shoes crack open a cold brewski and pop in Goku Midnight Eye on VHS CRANCK up the volume and watch the good times roll
You mean onime right? Because apparently I've been saying it wrong all this time. :P Is that a thing now?
The closest I can compare this movie to is Overdrawn at the Memory Bank. Johnny Depp as Fingal.
Jillian reviews for stuff like Transcendence are great, she pulls off cute but dumb so well.
I don't mean to come off as a white knight but I'm going to call you out as a dick anyway.
I don't think Bra's gonna get any loving tonight.
I think he'll be wearing the tittle of "He who sleeps on couch".
Dude, I'm PRETTY sure Brad x Jillian ain't a thing. Like, for YEARS now.
Ya, and you can tell by this review why they are no longer together.
While I thought Transcendence was an incredibly stupid movie, it didn't stop me from enjoying it for the most part. Even knowing the ending I was enjoying the ride, that was until the ending where it came down to only the 2 options stupid options, even though one of the main characters was a ridiculously intelligent super computer..
Well I can either save her, or upload the virus, but I can't do both..
Why can't you just save her and then willingly let yourself be destroyed? Oh, because that doesn't lead back to the hack written most controversial ending you could think of that you already spoiled at the beginning of the movie......
Saw the movie and was looking forward to what you guys thought of it. Was not disappointed, I pretty much agree with a lot of points that both of you raise.
It definitely could have been a lot better, but I did enjoy it. I don't regret seeing it but if I was to recommend it to somebody who had reservations about it I'd probably have them do a second-run theater or a rental if they want to give it a chance.
...I wonder if Brad ever played System Shock....because his general reaction to people's actions in Transcendence in response to AI's actions, calling them psychopaths and all that...I just wonder...
Don't get me wrong though - I don't support either of the sides in this movie. I just wonder if Brad knows System Shock's nuances, because his reaction and opinion are somewhat implying he doesn't see all of the possible routes situation such as this one could lead to (and System Shock had one of the most ugliest and horrible conclusive portrayals of such a possible outcome), thus I think he didn't experience System Shock and hence why he doesn't see possible reasons behind actions of humanity's side and condemns them psychopathic terrorists. This also leaves me wondering if Brad knows Deus Ex and Syndicate Wars series too, not just System Shock. Because all of these are pretty much showing what can possibly happen if situation like this arises, actually showing it in a pretty realistic, non-nonsensical way, but at the same time the overall sight is definitely not a pretty one for humanity's side, that's why it leaves me wonder if Brad knows or not...
Brad wasn't aware he had to play through a completely unrelated video game in order to get the movie.
If you think it's irrelevant, you're either didn't see this movie, or didn't play any of the games I've mentioned.
An obscure video game released in 1994 on DOS should not be required playing in order to understand the plot of a mainstream movie released in theaters in 2014. That would be the same as releasing a Victorian era adventure movie today and telling people who did not like it that they had to read a particular Allan Quatermain novel in order to understand the characters.
Master Chen is right, you're either obviously did notn't see this movie. I remember being so mad at Brad for his negative review of "The Dark Knight Rises" because it was obvious he never played "Bubsy."
Welp, The Change-up Review is no longer the most awkward and tough to watch Midnight Screenings review.
I disagree. The most awkward one to sit through is all the way back to Brian and Dave's review of Haunted House 1.
For me it was the Endless Love remake. Brad was super pissed and Jillian sounded like she was holding back sadness in her voice (<_< at least that's what happens to my voice when I'm trying not to cry)
I'm with Brad on this; the movie fails on everything in terms of the plot line and script. In fact, if it weren't for the terrorists, none of this shit would have ever happened; they were the reason why Depp uploaded himself into the network with that assassination, they made people go to him with that video they uploaded to the internet.
I don't care if what they did was for the greater good; whatever they did basically backfires on them BIG TIME.
Great reviews! I'm just curious, having viewed many of the archived midnight-screenings, what happened to Leah?
I noticed Team Snob has gotten smaller since the days of Battleship.
[Showings for the weekend of April 25th]
- Brick Mansions (PG-13 American remake of French David Belle and parkour vehicle District B13 and Paul Walker's last film)
- The Quiet Ones (PG-13 horror flick, students, poltergeist, blahblahblah)
- The Other Woman (PG-13 chick flick; Jamie Lannister has long nipples)
I'd watch Brick Mansions of all of them. Although Jamie Lannister's tits were almost as nice as Kate Upton's.
The Other Woman is weird to me in that Hollywood is trying to make Nicki Minaj an actress now.
This movie looks really bad by itself. I don't think Nicki Minaj can make it any worse significantly. Although, she's not really helping.
Actually, funny thing about that is that Nicki Minaj has formal performance training. However, she--like Lady Gaga--knows what sells in pop music: lowest common denominator. She also was apparently really awful at service industry work, so obviously pop star was the way to go.
I want to be a Jillian Minion !! :) Keep up the great work !!
Watch me using Mad Matt # 2-4 on Youtube, or reach me at firstname.lastname@example.org !!
I was on the fence about seeing Transcendence, but I have to say Jillian has convinced me to give it a go.Nothing in the descriptions of how supposedly stupid it was actuallys trick me as egregiously stupid, and if she's right I can accept the moral conflict it's talking about. The ending sound stupid though.
An online critic mentioned that the original script for Transcendence was really quite good but somehow it ended up awful.
I can believe that, yeah.
"Transcendence" never interested me, even when I saw the trailer. I love Johnny Depp, Morgan Freeman and science fiction, in general, and I thought the movie's premise could be a creepy and thrilling sci-fi horror movie, but the movie looked wrong to me from the start.
Actually, this movie reminds me kind of like A.I.: Artificial Intellingence. A sci-fi movie that tries to answer the big questions while lacking enough plot consistency to answer that correctly. Except while A.I. had a awesome(ier) second act that was kind of like Blade Runner Lite, this movie just seems kinda bland and dull. A whole lot of nope, for me. Boring Johnny Depp is boring. Give me interesting, but mellow, Johnny Depp back! Or Jack Sparrow; he was the best part of Pirates 4.
It's really more like a bizarre mixture of System Shock eerie feel of inevitable incoming horror and Syndicate Wars anti-utopian thematic, rather than AI and "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?", really.
I'm not talking about the thematic of "Transcendence", though. I'm talking about how this movie presentation feels to me. It feels like a movie that's too unfocused to answer its own tough questions about humanity and technology in an entertaining way.
I haven't seen Jobe's War since it came out on VHS and i was 10-12 years old. I remember looooving it. Shame on you, Bradley, for disliking such a truly great nostalgic film.
Don't worry Jillian, Richard Roeper agrees with you.
That's like saying the napkin is good at a bad restaurant.
What is is with Hollywood giving first time directors $100 million budgets? After Catwoman, 47 Ronin, Eragon and The Cat in the Hat you'd think they would have learned by now. Pfister does not have anywhere near the experience necessary for something like this. One of his major problems (which appears to be common with first-time directors on a huge budget) is that he has no sense of scale. This is meant to be a global story affecting the whole world, but it feels extremely constrained, which I think in part may be due to a preference for close-up shots in scenes which would be far better served with wider angles (a montage of neo-luddite’s being arrested feels like it’s all happening within a hundred metre radius). It really feels like a high-budgeted TV production along the lines of Game of Thrones, where it’s clear they don’t have the budget to show everything so they fill their time with smaller scenes and use the occasional CG wide-shot of a city or army to imply a larger world outside the frame. Also despite the camerawork being pretty, I can't think of a single memorable image from it.
I'd disagree with Brad and Jillian about Johnny Depp. To me he seemed to be slightly drugged throughout with a permanently vacant face and that slurred, undistinguishable accent that just completely took me out of the movie. No-one else in the film really did anything, just standing around looking worried at whatever Depp's doing at the time. Freeman and Mara are the worst hit by this, as the former does literally nothing in the entire film and the latter just gets to prophecise doom for the first two acts and then disappears into the background.
I don't think that this screenplay could ever work regardless of how much you tried to save it. The people we're meant to sympathise with are introduced as completely unsympathetic, the entire story with Bettany and Hall going their separate ways after Depp's uploading just assumes the FBI completely lose interest in the two people left on the terrorist's kill list, no-one notices the giant city being built in the desert in Hall's name, the military don't just bunker buster the whole place because the writer thinks that all military technology is connected to the internet (which wouldn't be useful for pretty much all of it) as well as all power generating and computing technology (why would you ever connect a hydroelectic dam to facebook?), and Depp doesn't just tell his utopian dreams to his wife which would have assuaged her fears and she wouldn't have left him!
Funnily enough I found a copy of the screenplay (which was slightly rewritten before production) and the opening scene was there from the beginning. The weird thing is that like 47 Ronin they seem to have scaled back a screenplay that they had the budget to film for no reason (Ronin was originally about as action-packed as Shoot-Em-Up). I was actually really looking forward to this film based on Pfister's work with Nolan (who recommended this script to Pfister in what I can only assume was a plot to sabotage his directing career to get him back to filming Nolan's stuff, which given that this film's opening weekend is worse than Stealth's is a near certainty).
Also, the 'it's science FICTION' response is completely meaningless. You may as well be saying 'Well, Terl could be stupid enough to believe the man-animal's story about smelting gold'. That's not meant as an insult to Jillian, just something that irks me. Honestly, I did like seeing you and Jillian debating this film, I don't think I'm likely to see any other vlogs with a positive opinion of this one so it was good to see at least. Finally the guy who wrote this film is also the writer for Prometheus 2, so it may still be an improvement over the first one.
Am I the only one who is reminded of Ghost in the Machine? (A stupid flick from the 90's)
Transcendence sounds like it has some Gundam SEED Destiny-esque shit going on with its characters.
Tries to be a heroes vs. villains story dealing with big issues of technology and free will; bad writing makes it come off more like "villains" who are never properly established as being evil vs. sociopathic crazy people the audience is supposed to accept as heroes.
come to think of it, I think this movie mostly Ripped off the game Deus Ex
I hope someone in the crew reviews Heaven Is For Real because it just seems hilarious to me in the same way God's Not Dead was. I've been waiting for that since the movie was announced.
Richard Pryor is... SCARED for no reason!
HAHA!!! You beat me to it!
Worth noting that according to the writer of Transcendence, it's supposed to be a case of grey and gray morality...
Jack Paglan: “I drafted for every character, because I was playing with this idea that there’s no real good guys or bad guys, just shifting points of view.”
According to TV Tropes, when the conflict lies in the middle of a sliding scale of idealism vs. cynicism, the result of this conflict is one side wins, but it's a hollow victory that's kind of depressing...
TVtropes? That website is for thirty-something-year-old virgins and furriers.
TvTropes is wikipedia for cultural milieu and creative distillation.
And why does anyone need to buy horseshoes in this day and age?
1. Go fuck yourself.
2. TVTropes is actually a very interesting and useful site for media analysis, and is usually about as informative as Wikipedia, but less wordy.
3. Brad Jones has referenced TVTropes quite a few times.
4. I'm a nineteen-year old virgin, thank you very much.
5. I'm NOT a "furrier", thank you very much.
I think my stomach vomited on the inside and dissolved my internal organs with that first sentence of yours. I would be glad that such an occurrence is nonfatal if it were not for the fact that I do not believe I want to live in a world with people as ignorant (or perhaps stupid) as you.
Go fuck myself? Oh dear, I seem to have hit a nerve. To be fair, I made that comment in a hurry and resorted to cheap shots when I should have left well enough alone. Consider this an apology.
Also, yes, you both aptly pointed out how I did say "furriers" instead of "furries". Touché. Moral of the story, kids, is never sling insults through use of autocorrect.
Well keep trying and maybe one day you'll achieve your dream of dying of an ulcer from severe douchebaggery and wasting bandwidth with your utter dearth of Archer references. Here's hoping only the spiniest of candiru fish finds its way in your urethra to lodge itself firmly until necessary action is taken*. What you would be doing in the Amazon river I have no idea. Probably looking for a horse hoof specialist. Ya weirdo.
*Meaning surgery. Of your penis. Get it?
Because you're (acting like) a prick.
@ John K, Nah. I should be sorry; I overreacted. Everyone's entitled to an opinion. I've been an active reader of the site for years. I just don't think you should knock it until you try it.
And honestly, my "furrier" spelling joke was a cheap shot, too.
Although I'd describe quite a few furries as furriers, if ya catch my drift <.<,
hehe, a synonym for furrier is "peltmonger"
Oh finally figured out what the horsesho thing was about, that'd be "Farriers", not "Furriers" >.<
I'm sure I'm not the first to say this, but sometimes watching Brad and Jillian (I'm a huge Jillian fan, btw) discuss movies is like hearing your parents fight.
Your mom must have huge tits.
Yeah, these reviews were very awkward to watch. That's especially the case with the Transcendence review, but that seemed to have crossed over into the A Haunted House 2 review as well. I couldn't even finish the latter because I was a bit too annoyed over it. There were funny parts in both reviews, but they were overshadowed by the irritating moments.. They just weren't very good...
The Haunted House 2 video was filmed first. Jillian and I go at these videos like Siskel & Ebert, we like pestering eachother, and by her own admission she likes poking the other person to make them more agitated. That actually makes her a lot of fun to do videos with. But we've been great friends for many years now, and the fact that we can still hang out and do videos together, even after we were once married, shows how close we are.
You really need to look at our videos like Siskel & Ebert, who by the way, were A LOT more volatile than Jillian and I ever get.
Transcedence is just New World Order propaganda
Those Freemasons are pretty conniving. They hide their propaganda in material that has nothing to do with their agenda frequently. It's why I stopped watching PBS and drinking chocolate milk.
Er, I never got the impression that the terrorists were meant to be heroes. I got the impression that they were the villains of the film, representing humanity's fear of the unknown. And if they convinced you, you were meant to realize that you'd been rooting for the bad guys when Will sacrifices himself and reveals that the nanites were just there to clean up pollution.
No, they were definitely the heroes. They represented humanity's rebellious spirit to overcome oppression. And if they convinced you, it's not different than rooting for Luke Skywalker in Star Wars. And his hot terrorist sister who was a coke head who eventually needed shock treatments and now talks about gay ghost that haunt her rich hollywood home after they died in her bed without ever banging her.
Brainscan is fucking great! Then again, I just took it as a fun horror film even when it was released, not something predicting the future or trying to be a cautionary tale.
Spoilers: it was all a dream anyway. Or was it??? Dun-Dun!
Kind of like pointing out that Are You Afraid of the Dark? is a watered down Tales from the Crypt 90s horror tv show. Yeah, No shit.
Brad should re-review these movies. Perhaps at a future date when he isn't so tired.
So Brad likes the 2004 Ladykillers... I'm still afraid to watch that movie, even though I like the Coens, because I love the 1955 version so very very much and the remake wasn't received particularly well.
I actually liked Transcendence, but I never viewed the terrorists as the heroes. To me the movie was just about the wife dealing with her husband being put in a computer and her not knowing if it was him or not. I saw the terrorist as just that and pretty much their were no good guys in this movie it was just about people being people, being afraid of what they don't understand and acting like we do so often.The wife is the one stuck in the middle between the terrorist and her husband who she isn't 100% sure is still her husband and it really makes you see how hard her choice is especially when her husband starts acting weird and doing things out of character. I thought the movie did a great job and I can see how the choice would be so hard to make. Just thinking about it now oddly enough this movie is sort of like a take on the story of Jesus in that the husband was like a prophet trying to save the world and humanity by bringing us together and improving the environment. The people who joined him did seem very cult like and everyone around them who wasn't a part of it saw him as a threat and wanted him destroyed, very much like the story of Jesus. I don't know if that was the point to make a modern day version of Jesus or not but overall I thought the movie was enjoyable and it is a great topic for discussion and debate.
My issue with the ambiguity regarding J Depps actions is the end when Mara points a gun at Bettany's head demanding he upload the virus. It completely goes against the character that believes the computer is a monster to appeal to its humanity. THEN the Depp computer asks Bettany what he wants to do: Destroy the computer or save the girl. If it was malevolent and wanted to take over the word he wouldn't have given him the choice. As smart as Bettany's character was he should have recognized this. The computer can rewrite its own code so it could have turned itself off, saved the girl, and not killed millions by destroying all technology. Instead Bettany is like NOPE burn it down. Also, Mara's character has no repercussions for her actions in the film. The acting and directing were great. The writing was my problem.
Protip to Jillian for the future; most anime is total worthless garbage.
SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT. . .
WE DON'T GET A DREDD SEQUEL,
BUT WE GET THIS (MUCH NEEDED?) ADDITION TO A
FRANCHISE THAT'S NEVER BEEN FUNNY?! YOU KNOW,
SOMETIMES I HATE MY FELLOW AMERICANS.
Okay... I just got done watching Transcendence with my dad and the end result was pretty much the same... My dad loved it and I hated it! Me it wasn't so much that anti hero's were cold blooded terrorists, it was more that everyone (with the exception of Johnny Depp) had little to no character development at all! And then Johnny Depp pissed me off again cuz I can't stand it when he tries to play a normal person that isn't a drunk emo/ justfuckinwierd guy! Because honestly I don't think he knows how to be regular... I don't know that took me out of the movie besides everything else you said! My dad pretty much had the same opinion as Jillian so no worries,she's not alone. :)
haven't seen "Transcendence", but I have to say Jillians arguments make much more sense than Brads in this case.
Wanting the human saving side in such a setting to be pristine shiny goody two shoes is completely unrealistic.
Also there are other movies where he doesn't mind the fact that the heroes are assholes.
I guess Brad just didn't like the movie and wanted to present some kind of rational argument. Well id didn't make much sense in this case.
Dude. If you watch the movie, you'll see that Brad's point of view makes perfect sense. It's not that the "heroes" are "assholes". Its a film that tries to explore two sides of an argument. There's the side of Johnny Depp who tries to help humanity evolve at the (partial) cost of their own independence. And there's Paul Bettany and the Morgan Freeman/Cillian Murphy duo who notice that Johnny Depp transcending is dangerous because it strips humanity of its will. Now this is a great setup for a science-fiction high concept film...
...except there's a third group of people on the anti-Transcendence side... who are Luddite terrorists. And by Luddite terrorists, I mean mass murderers of computer scientists (who happen to program viruses to make computers explode, which also makes them hypocrites). And the movie tries to portray them as sympathetic by teaming up (arguably) the most sympathetic character (Paul Bettany) with them.
It doesn't fucking work. I can't sympathize with the terrorists. Especially when their leader isn't remotely charismatic. That's the major failing of the film. It tears down a lot of the anti-Transcendence side of the debate and makes the film pretty awful.
I didn't understand why computer-Johny Depp didn't just create a whole bunch of nanites that would dismantle, incapacitate, or worst case, maim or kill. Those nanites could freakin rearrange matter in second. No way the luddites would have stood a chance. This movie made computer-Johnny Depp really really dumb. There are ways to stop, prevent movement, neutralize. Instead the movies just dumbed itself from it's true potential.