I really should see The Iron Giant.
I find it interesting that the Iron Giant re-release adds scenes that were previously only storyboards.
I, believe it or not, have never seen The Iron Giant.
I haven't seen The Iron Giant, either. Somehow I just could never drudge up any desire. Still don't want to see it.
I saw "The Iron Giant" re-release here on Monday. I'm happy to report I still love that movie!
Fuck yeah I cry at this movie. Oh, and WALL-E, that's another robot movie that really tugs at the heartstrings.
I think I now like The Iron Giant more than I liked it as a kid.
Like, as a kid I just didn't like the anti-war, anti-violence thing to it. Because as a kid I was like "Nah dude! War and violence are awesome!" But now I'm like "Yeah it was kind of blatant at times, but it was still executed well and I think the moral at the end says something beyond simply being anti war."
The movie is a bit dated now though, it has a lot of 90's tropes in it.
90s tropes? For a 50s period movie? It's not like Linkara 90s kid showed up to say dude
That's a good point. But I just find that the 90's had a lot of movies that went out of their way to have strong young boy protagonists who are ALWAYS right, whereas their parents are always wrong. Like:
Star Wars Episode 1: The Phantom Menace
Home Alone 1-3
The Iron Giant
And a bunch of others that I can't quite name at the moment but other people will probably bring up.
Like. I didn't even remember that the movie took place in the 1950's until you said it just now. Because in 1990's cartoons suburban America looks the same no matter what timeline it's supposed to be in.
None of the films you mention really show that boys are always right and parents always wrong;
Phantom Menace. The kid is Darth Vader and his mother is in one brief scene. There is no parental conflict.
Home Alone. The parents are absent and are actually right. Kevin is a monster.
Iron Giant, is a little closer, but really it has nothing in common with other two films.
And anyway kids not being believed is hardly a 90s trope. It's actually a archetype of children's stories. dating from about the year dot. In truth Children's fiction virtually always has to find ways to exclude parents from the mix simply so it can focus on the children. This is why you have lots of stories about orphans, Peter Pan, Harry Potter et all.
Stories where kids have a magical or other wordily friend/encounter they have to hide from their parents
ET, Iron Giant, Stig of The Dump etc
Or wander off pot something no one believes, Invaders From Mars, Silver Bullet. and too many to count.
On top of which you can throw in Boarding schools, secret clubs and an endless list of plot devises designed to make it possible to ensure that parental input doesn't ruin the action.
Honestly Dude, I think you're trying to force the facts to fit a theory rather than the theory to fit the facts. There were also a lot of films with girls as the central character base on these principles so you could include Matilda, Hocus Pocus and frankly Pan's Labyrinth as well.
@The Hand Of Onan
Yeah I can get that. You're right. I'm just trying to be that guy who's like "Hey you know this thing? Yeah! It's a thing right?!" And then I struggle to deliver actual evidence that proves what I'm saying.
You know. I like it that nowadays I'm more open minded than I used to be.
Beforehand I would have gone out of my way to come up with a ridiculous argument that would serve no purpose and take up an entire 3 hours of may day.
But now? I realize that it's far more noble to just admit when I've been had.
It didn't take until high school for me to realize why Mansley was such a paranoid prick. It bugged me when I was a kid...but now that I'm older I totally get the historical significance behind it.
I am the ironing giant.
Can't wait for the midnight screening for Pan. From what I've heard, it's a pretty colossal "What the FUCK, Hollywood?"-style trainwreck.Those are always fun to watch you guys rant about.
It would be a more interesting discussion than their Iron Giant review, since it's terrible
it really did feel like the director got drunk.
and some how got Hugh Jackman to sing a Nirvana song. WTF? just how much did they pay him? lol
Instead of talking about the complex themes of The Iron Giant such as
50s cold war paranoia, nature vs nurture, anti war themes that do not paint the America military as war hungry stormtroopers, free will, responsibilities of weapons and technology, fragility of life
We get dick puns, Adam Sandler movies, and hurricane drills..... in retrospect I shouldn't be disappointed, confused random esoteric rambling means Brad thinks it's an amazing movie, but doesn't know how to articulate it
But at least there's more Man of Steel bashing
Ps the dream sequence was too sequel baiting for me, and felt unnecessary, also the other added scene was Dean and Hogarth's mom small talking
Remember kids, it's wrong to repeatedly bash a movie that you didn't like, because its very hurtful to those who did like it.
Unless that movie is Iron Man 3. Or Frozen. Or Gravity. Or Interstellar. Or Avengers: Age of Ultron. Or any other movie that has been granted "bashing privileges" by the Internet. In those cases, you are not only allowed to frivolously bash these movies, but you are highly encouraged to do so.
BUT ANYWAYS MAN OF STEEL IS A PRICELESS TREASURE AND YOU MUST ALWAYS RESPECT IT. NEVER QUESTION INTERNET LOGIC. STOP THINKING FOR YOURSELF.
The Cliff Notes version of what DMMN just said:
I hate Man of Steel, so don't you DARE defend it!
But I love all those other movies, and I will hunt you down and CASTRATE you if you say an unkind word about them!
I actually only like a couple of those movies, so sorry, you're wrong. In fact, I don't even hate MOS. I don't love it, but it's not awful. But MOS defenders need to stop acting like they're victims when they're just as happy to go trash other movies (I listed frequent targets) and act like the people who like them are the biggest morons on the planet.
Feel free to defend Man of Steel. Just don't be a self-righteous hypocrite doing so.
I really don't care about people bashing MoS, it's the attitude of "You like that? What are you, fucking retarded?"
To any "Man of Steel" fanboy watch "Superman vs The Elite"
I've seen "Superman vs The Elite", and, as impossible as this might be to get your head around, it didn't change my mind.
There are no hurricane drills. If there's a hurricane, you don't go to school and then make up the days later. Trust me on this.
Is whining about people not respecting MOS still a thing?
That depends, is calling people retards for liking it still a thing?
I never call anyone a retard for anything! I don't care if people like stuff I don't. But MOS is just crap. disjointed, badly scripted, jumpy old horseshit. If people like it that's there business. But it still doesn't mean it's not crap.
Hand of onan? So just because we like it means we should also admit it's a piece of crap to make you haters feel better. Un huh, to us, it's not a piece of crap, and we can't admit that. Because it's our opinion. Basically you are contradicting yourself in the it's ok if you like something different than us, BUT, you can't say it's a good movie because IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT! Don't say it!
But honestly those who do like it, probably also think it's a good movie too. So they won't admit to that last part you said for all the tea in china.
No I simply reserve the right to call MOS crap because it's crap and its fans are just wrong. Praising rubbish leads to more rubbish. This is why we have Taylor Swift and MOS, Well they've got fans, they deserve to be taken seriously, it makes them happy, blah blah blah. The end result is crap music and crap films and a reduction in the art form. When I say I don't care about what other people like, it's because I don't respect them not because I believe in equality for bad taste. I don't think liking crap makes you backwards and I don't think it is fair to stigmatise people with impaired cognitive abilities they have no control over by associating them with fan boy cry babies who are just butt hurt because they feel a god awful movie is being judged harshly.
Well, you know what I think? I think you haters are butt-hurt that, despite all your efforts, all your screaming and crying, the movie was still successful, and they're still making more.
I don't care if it was successful. Lot's of hit movies are crap and MOS It is still crap. . You guys are just cry babies, Where as I'm up in ether, imperious, almost godlike with a big smug shit-eating grin on my face because I am right and you are wrong!
Yeah, you just keep telling yourself that.
I'm to busy being right to talk to myself. But thank you for replying/
You're just trolling at this point, aren't ya?
@Hand of Onan
Yo. I think that Hand of Onan has a point here. I think it's perfectly fine to diss people for having shitty taste in stuff. I have some of the strangest tastes in movies and video games, and people always shit on me for it. But at the same time? I'm cool with them shitting on me for it because I always shit on THEM for their tastes.
Like I always shit on Empire Strikes Back, I always say it's the worst Star Wars film because it's boring as hell and none of the conflicts end with any sort of consequences.
I always shit on GTA 5 because it fails to offer an adequate system for gaining money after finishing the campaign in single player; making all non-linear single player gameplay in GTA 5 completely pointless.
But hey, I'm okay with people arguing with me over that shit. Because I know why my tastes are the way they are, and they're all valid reasons.
It's not like someone is going to hurt my feelings just because they disagree with me. Nor will it hurt my feelings if they scream at my face over it and try to degrade my soul over it.
But. I also agree with Gary Jackson here to a point. I think that you shouldn't hate on someone for liking something else. That's not playing it cool!
So here's my viewpoint: I personally don't like riding people for having different tastes than me, but if I see other people doing that then I'm not going to shit on them for it.
I kind of like it when a members of a popular ideology shit on less popular viewpoints because it antagonizes the majority. It makes members of the popular ideologies look like pretentious dicks, and that helps fight against political correctness, which helps the world become more individualized.
And that's all I care about, individualism. The acceptance that everyone has their own radical beliefs and tastes, and the ability for people to show their beliefs without being chastised. If everyone is unique, the world is more interesting, and less dull.
A lot of people say I'm a bit of a hipster for saying stuff like that. But in all honesty I hate Man of Steel. I think that Superman is dead, his concept is dead, his character is dead, his meaning is dead. When Fleischer Studios stopped making Superman cartoons Superman fell into a void of despair, never to surface again.
You know what? This perfectly sums up my opinion of guys like Hand of Onan.
You just gained a bunch of cool points for referencing South Park.
The Rifftrax was fun, I thought the measuring guy was sorta like a creepy relative of Tom Kenny
As a person living in Miami Im irritated that not one Cuban was in the movie, so underrepresention of my people, and it was set at Orlando with Daytona locations, so yeah
But to described this movie, it's more disjointed and confusing than the Archie comic crossover with the Predator, the movie had almost had a childlike innocence to it despite also being an edgy B movie, which makes it funny to some people
I was born and raised in Miami.
They probably left Cubans out of it because they didn't want to be accused of stereotyping - this being a movie about drug trafficking.
Im Cuban/Columbian and "Scarface" is one of my favorite movies
I'll have to buy two copies of The Iron Giant Signature Edition on Blu Ray. One for me, one for my cousin. He was obsessed with this film back in the day. First saw it with him on VHS in the mid 2000's.
Shame they didn't do a wide rerelease, I would've gone to the theatres to see it.
Brad, did you know that the director of Black Rage invested all of his money in Beanie Babies and went bankrupt? His son made a documentary about it.
Damn, now that "Friends Forever" song is stuck in my head.
The biggest SMH moment in "Miami Connection" is when the guy who got fired from the club goes to the gym bums asking for their help.
He then tells them that if they help him get his job back they would get any money he makes.
So, what's the point of getting the job back?
Never understood the hype behind The Iron Giant, saw it and it didn't do anything for me
As impressive (?) as it is to have seen Rollergator or Fun In Balloonland unriffed, I got you beat: I saw Measuring Man unriffed. For a brief period Rifftrax was doing Periscopes of their screening sessions for shorts, and Measuring Man was the first one that I saw. Needless to say from the moment I saw it I (and every other Periscope viewer) knew I was looking at the short for the next Rifftrax live event. It was magic.
Instead of my theater getting Iron Giant it got War Room. Goddammit.
Well if you want Iron Giant, you'll have to clean out your closet and pray for it. Or something.
Wait... Lion King? 1994's Lion King? For a "duck and cover" exercise? Your school kept up those duck and cover things until 1994? Long after the end of the cold war when Rocky knocked out Ivan Drago?
I'm from Oklahoma and that seems criminally outdated.
Man of Steel sucks.
That's all I have to say.
I'm glad i'm not the only one who cries manly tears during the end of On Her Majesty's Secret Service. I thought it was just me, but apparently my friends are heartless bastards. I'm yet to meet someone who doesn't get teary during either The Iron Giant or Short Circuit though. Friendly robots man, more powerful than a thousand Titanic end scenes.
I love the chemistry of the Brad, Allison, and Phelan :) Fun video.
Fun in Balloon Land is pure torture to sit through unriffed. Bring drugs.
Can you guys recomend any more Rifftraxes? I though i would never buy "Fun in baloon land" but now i got curious and got it:)
*snaps someone's neck*
*lets people get murdered so at least the blood isn't directly on his hands*
The Big Blue Boy-Scout!
Seriously, dude, it's getting old.