It's a bummer that Ted 2 didn't turn out the way I expected.
I knew its sequel was gonna suck even more that the first film.
If categorized the worst movies for 2015 so far would this be tied with Hot Tub Time Machine 2?
Pretty sure Old Fashoned blows HTTM2 out of the running. Followed by Unfinished Business.
Actually, United Passions is the worst out of all of them.
I really have to think back... what was the last comedy sequel that really worked? I really have to go all the way back to Austin Powers 2. Did I just forget something or is the art of comedy-sequels so lost?
22 Jump Street
Agreed. I didn't even have to think that hard. :)
Didn't even like the first. But yeah now that you mention it many liked that one
Airplane 2: The Sequel
Your joking right? Airplane 2 was bad, it was nothing more than an exact rehash of the first film in almost every way except set in a space shuttle hoping that nobody noticed they just completely re-filmed Airplane
Yeah, Deadpool doesn't like it so that means it's not good.
Deadpool's opinion is FACT.
Also Deadpool is going to be the best movie ever made.
I kinda liked Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey... And Gremlins 2
My man! I agree... If I can get a little low budget-in the know-niche movies, I really liked The Gamers: Dorkness Rising better than The Gamers.
"Austin Powers 2" sucks. I laughed my ass off at it when I first saw it in the theater, but I tried watching it again last year on TV and just couldn't get through it at all. The pacing is absolutely terrible, and most of the film consists of incongruous pop-culture reference jokes from around 2000 which are incredibly dated. Most younger people probably wouldn't even recognize them. And frankly, Mike Myers' British guy/Fat Bastard schtick gets old pretty fast. "Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey" sucks as well, though William Sadler is awesome as death. If there is an actual Grim Reaper, I can't imagine it as anyone other than William Sadler.
I seriously can't think of any good comedy sequels.
there were a few really funny ones. As Mentioned Clerks 2 was fun, I liked naked gun 2 1/2, Hot shots 2, Airplane 2, Wayne's World 2, Austin Powers 2
Most are not as good as the original, but enjoyable
Clerks 2 was fun
I liked Ace Ventura 2, but that was a long time ago. Then again, I don't like most recent comedies, period.
Good Lord. I watched Max yesterday, because I had nothing to do and it was the only movie that fit my schedule. Even after watching the video, I still don't know what to feel about it.
Yeah, I liked some of the jokes, but MAN there were just so many long boring scenes.
Also, y'all didn't mention the after credits scene. Did you stay for it? A brick joke from the beginning gets its pay off.
Is it actually on the same level as Caddyshack II in terms of bad sequels?
Can't believe anyone would have thought Ted 2 would work. Doesn't Seth McFarline only have like two jokes and both of them are centered around sex?
How in the world did anyone see that trailer and find it funny?
And maybe it's the logical part of my mind over-thinking things but this "living" Teddy Bear could legally get married to a human woman but his status "as a person" comes into question when he decides to adopt a child?! What?! So.... gay people can't get married but a Teddy Bear that's legally not a person CAN?!
Hey now, MacFarlane also has racist jokes and jokes about farting.
i may be in a small boat here, but as far as comedy sequels go, i liked some of the other police academy movies more than the first. part one is really good, but i personally prefer part 4, citizens on patrol.
A comedy movie is just one long joke. Every part of it comes together to make it funny. A sequel to a comedy is like adding more to the end of the same joke and hoping it will still be funny.
On McFarlane on the Daily Show: I actually enjoyed the Donald Trump joke he made. And he was hesitant about it, because he seemed to be well aware and concerned about tired clichées. Really hard to imagine that´s the same guy who´s regulary beating horses to death with most of the stuff he does now.
A midnight screening posted this early? Sweet. Now I have something else to watch on a Friday along with Rifftrax's riff of To Catch a Yeti, which I just found out about for whatever reason.
Downside is that I found out that Chester Novell Turner has started writing a sequel to Quadead Zone. Oh well, more Snob fodder.
You should go with that Tequila and Bonetti idea, but it would probably work better in small sample chunks or trailer form.
As far as more recent comedy sequels go, I think the only one that stands out in terms of entertainment is Dumb & Dumber To. The only difference between that and the rest is because of timing. Other comedy sequels took a few short years to get made, but D&D2 only took 2 decades after the original to get made. The Farrellys at least took their time to come up with a decent enough script for the movie which turned out well, while other comedy sequel writers tend to crack out different jokes on a whim. Plus, it was great they got both Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels back for more of their great comic chemistry. Yes it's not as good as the original but as far as recent comedy sequels go, D&D2 is still more watchable!
It had nothing to do with the Farrelly brothers waiting until they had a good script(which they didn't)......It got made because Jim Carrey's career finally hit rock bottom after all the crap he made like the number 23 and Mr.Popper's Penguins that he decided it was time to attempt to go back to what made him in the first place...
I have zero doubt we would get an awful garbage Ace Ventura 3 IF it weren't for the fact that Shadyac doesn't really have anything to do with Hollywood anymore....
Dumb and Dumber to may not have been a god awful movie, but it wasn't anything spectacular or anywhere close to what the first one had....
Whatever! It's still better than the other comedy sequels!
Comedies still need a story, so to me the best comedies have more to them than lots of jokes. The problem with a lot of sequels is they try to amp up the jokes and have no story. HTTM worked because it centred on Cusack and once he's removed all you've got is some feeble jokes There has to be a context for the humour. Ted had pathos and a relationship arch. The sequel is just jokes being beaten into the ground.
A reason I don't think comedy sequels work: they're derivative products. The first movie had no choice but to be original. The second movie spends a lot of its time referencing the first movie. That's why the Austin Powers sequels weren't great. The first movie paid homage to James Bond. The second two paid homage to Austin Powers.
From the Ted 2 review: Ready for some Hollywood cynicism? Hasbro reference + Jurassic Park reference = .... Hasbro released the toy tie-ins for Jurassic World.
I think the next step in the evolution of Canine Action/Adventure movies has to be a Ninja/Martial Arts Dog that stops International Espionage/Hackers.
No! Not Karate Dog! Anything but that, please have mercy!
I'm at around 20 minutes on the Ted two review and I want to say this before I forget.
The reason I think most comedy movies fail and the second is because they want to try and be bigger better and funnier than the first one instead of just as good as the first one. I believe that a lot of them also run into the same problem that there either too soon after the first one and they can't really come up with ideas better than the first.
But this is just general why they don't work as well as other movie sequels would.
For Ted two specifically, the guy who made it basically made anti-humor funny, a reason why didn't watch the first tight until long after it came out was because I was afraid the whole movie was can be anti-humor and I can't stand family guy in its current incarnation. While his style of funny didn't seep so much into the first one the second one it sounds like that's what a lot of the comedy is, anti-humor like his can work when it's a once every half hour kind of deal and it doesn't last long where it's funny just because the the situation is making it funny, but his doesn't really work like that.
Anyway those are just my thoughts on it.
I knew Ted 2 was doomed when I saw the first preview and Mila Kunis was nowhere in it. The whole first movie was about that realationship. Now not only do they negate that but they punish you for liking her by having her split up with a character you're supposed to be be watching and rooting for in this one.
What makes that worse is that could have done it right. Even if her pregnancy kept her from being in the movie they didn't have to do that. Have her away on a business trip and you only see her face on a Skype call. Or even if you kill her youre at least not ruining liking her from before. Or have both the thunder buddies becoming dads. But that would mean sharing focus. I'm ranting now. Thank you for confirming my reasons not to see this.
I miss Mila Kunis.
Brad, if you haven't see the movie yet, you should really watch this new horror-comedy called Amigo Undead that stars Randall Park & Steve Agee.
Tromadance Detroit? Which is pretty much down the block from me? Interesting.
Re Talking Dog Movies, A Boy And His Dog would make a good WTF Hollywood episode.
Interesting. Based off the trailers for Max, I would have thought it'd be like an old fashioned Lassie/Rin-Tin-Tin mixed with Benji kind of a movie with war stuff thrown in but what you're describing is a lot weirder!
Ryan's awfully jingoistic.
No, saying you support the troops isn't jingoism......
Saying "Amurica, fuck yeah!" when we enter a needless war over lies - THAT'S jingoism.
No one asked for your opinion. Fuck off.
LOL what a dick.
Put down? you telling me they put down service dogs after they outlive there usefulness?
no, they go to live with either the handler or a family.
They certainly don't treat them that well once they've 'outlived their usefulness'..... I just read/signed a petition that wanted to add onto this years NDAA [National Defense Authorization Act] with a provision "requiring the military to bring home retired dogs serving overseas and to ease the adoption process for handlers who choose to adopt".
You wouldn't need such a provision if it was already being done.
Sad that even needs to be laid out - it should just be a 'given' that we take care of these heroes.... but then knowing how we treat our human ones....
i was wrong about all dogs being retired to the usa, but neither of these, or a couple of others i read (all linked from wardogs.org who probably aint gonna lie) make any mention of putting down retired dogs.
Oh NO, I don't think they get 'put-down' either (guess I should have been more clear earlier) - Dylan was wondering that. I just was referring to stories I'd read about not treating them as they deserve..... probably those same ones you're referencing ;)
I think we're all on the same page - so help out those poor dogs Goddamnit!
I swear the plot you're describing for Max makes me think of the plot to "My Dog Skip" which almost had everything including guy doing illegal running of stuff that the dog ends up thwarting.
Oh, man. This movie was hard to watch. It reminds me of all the stuff I went through in Iraq.
You know what I went through in Black mesa?
I don't want to hear about it.
Max is about MY shit.
We war dogs go through hell. I saw my best pal, Rover, get BLOWN UP, man. Oh, the howls. The horrible, horrible howls....
One second, he was there, and then Rover was gone, never to sniff another ass again. I think about him every time I'm crapping in the yard and I hear an engine backfire. Scares the hell out of me. Oh, and the Fourth of July is, like, my personal Hell.
Max addresses some very serious issues that these two chuckleheads barely even touch upon. Now excuse me while I go drink from the toilet, and try not to lose my shit because I can't ever really wash the blood out of my fur.
Are you kidding me Freeman?
I am not in the mood.
. Max, don't speak to my shit, but yeah he got my respect for his own shit coz vets shouldn't be trying to out rank eachother over their shit. But, Nam was the worst shit.
So half of Ted2 is the star trek next gen episode "Measure of a man"
Aw man, you beat me to it. Actually if they had Brent Spiner as the prosecutor that could have been pretty funny for the die-hard nerds in the audience.
There's a simple reason why comedy sequels rarely work:
It's trying to tell the same joke again.
It's that annoying co-worker of yours who has to come up to you and poke you in the ribs and tell you a joke. And maybe it's funny, but once the joke is told he keeps poking you going, "Get it! Get it!" and then proceeded to pontificate on *why* you should find the joke funny and tells it to you again.
I think they can sometimes work but it has to be done carefully and try and to not tell the same jokes and to not erode the characters into the base components in order to try and sap more humor out of them. It's certainly a balancing act and it's rarely done. Usually the tell the same jokes again, only maybe with a slight twist, and then have to make the characters dumber in order to have more material to make jokes.
"At the end of the first movie they rip him open, there's cotton inside him!"
So, I suppose that means the second Ted film didn't even bother with the cottonuity?
It means ... it's a great-idea-but-possibly-not-and-I'm-not-being-indecisive!
That's the stupidest idea I ever heard! GET OUT!
Is Midnight Screenings going to review the final Robin Williams movie, "Boulevard"?
I love it when Ryan is there.
shame ted2 sucks, not a suprise tho.
if anyone else likes cheering on a massacre of dumb assholes then you will enjoy eerie 13 as much as i am, it's so bad ive watched half of it muted so far, hopefully everyone gets zombied but i know at least the blonde chick will survive.
I haven't seen Ted 2, but by Ryan's description of the title credit scene, it sounds like he could be describing the A Chorus Line type opening at the beginning of Family Guy
Last good movie I've seen Thomas Haden Church in was Tombstone...
Using fire works as a plot device to show that a dog has PTSD is a bit weird.
Every pet my family ever had, whether it was dogs or cats, acted as if the world was ending each time they heard fireworks and they didn't have PTSD.
I was really confused for a second just looking at the marquee outside my local theater. Did they give Fury Road another run? Why does it say PG, though?!
But no, it's just a movie called Max that is unrelated. Too bad. I would have gone to see Fury Road again.
Yeah, comedy sequels that are good are pretty rare. Not impossible, but they fail more often than genre film sequels, I think.
Completely unsurprised to hear Ted's a repetitive mess - the trailer made me think "oh, so it's that old Family Guy episode where Brian sues to drink from the fountain... with a bear."
I really like when you have Ryan on. He always seems so upbeat, and his inside knowledge of how the studio movie making machine works is so interesting.
Please let Ryan go to the Minions Movie! I love his dry wit and he was so looking forward to seeing it, after Despicable Me 2! :D
I love how often you are talking about Gilmore Girls recently. Are you still doing the Snobcast? You should get Brian, Ryan and whichever other of your guy friends like the show (I think Irving has mentioned liking it) together and talk about the boys Rory dated and why Jess is the one for her. I would love listening to that.
They remade that movie about Hitler in art school? Okay, got that joke out of the way.
You what Fuck it. I liked Ted 2. But I guess since everyone else hates it, I guess I'm the fucking idiot, right?
Pretty sure it just means taste is subjective.
I liked the movie too. Comedy is subjective and not everyone laughs at the same things. I like Seth MacFarlane's sketch type comedy but I understand why some people would not like it. 'Ted 2' was not a bad comedy by any stretch. Ted 2 is one of the better comedies to come out this year, the other being 'Spy'.
Okay, first I'd like to apologize because I was frustrated about something else when I posted this comment and it basically vented here. It was a dick move on my part and I am sorry
Honestly, The review wasn't what made me mad (they made some good points like the fact that there are too many cutaway gigs, the plot would've worked better if it was about Ted's right to get married rather then the right to become a parent, and it really didn't need the villain from the first movie). It was the comments below the review that basically was "I didn't see it, but I knew it was going to suck." I think that unless you've seen the movie you do not have the right to say whether or not it sucks. There're been movies that when I saw the trailer I thought were going to suck but I did see them they weren't that bad. It's rare but it does happen.
Also give those who are telling me the fuck off I have one thing to say. I may have abused the system but that's why I'm apologizing for it. If you want to disagree with me I'm fine with that but the point of comments is this your opinions not to become an angry screaming match. I know that's what happens anyway, but what's at least try to be civil.
Brad, I just want you to know that I think the variety of films you've watched over the years has made you a better person and that you're an inspiration to snobs everywhere.
I should share this thought before I'm sober. Love you XoXo
Nah bro, Ted 2 was on fleek. The radon you didn't like it is cuz you become your Cinema Snob character looking for some kind of high art in a comedy or some shit. Same reason you didn't like Man of Steel and Dredd. You should loosen up, try doing some dead lifts before you go out, that's what I do.
the part about the song and dance routine, i was like "yeah, like family guy opens Every episode"
I just saw 'Ted 2' and honestly it wasn't a bad movie. The plot focussed on Ted this time instead of John (Mark Wahlberg) and the central conflict was fairly high concept for an R rated comedy. I felt the first film was more laugh out loud funny with a heartfelt message about growing up. 'Ted 2' wasn't as raunchy and had a more complicated ethical dilemma for the characters to face about what makes a person a person. While the comedy elements may be hit-or-miss with some audience members, the central conflict Ted faces is examined with a lot of care and respect. For a comedy about a sentient teddy bear the film touches on some fairly complex themes about humanity. I appreciate 'Ted 2' for not rehashing the first film's plot and went in a different direction than what I was expecting.
On another note, the villain of the first film Donny (Giovanni Ribisi) returns and gives a very menacing performance in 'Ted 2'. His plan for going after Ted was very well thought out and logical in line with the character's creepy obsessiveness.
All in all, while I think 'Ted 2' didn't surpass its predecessor in LOL moments, but it definitely wasn't a bad comedy by any stretch. All of this is predicated on whether you like Seth MacFarlane's sketch type comedy of course.
The only good film with the title "Max" was that 2002 John Cusack film where an art dealer/German Jewish World War I veteran befriends a young Adolf Hitler right after the war ends, and it was only good because IT WAS SO FUCKING BIZARRE. Noah Taylor as Hitler! Doing art in a shack that is actually better drawn than actual Hitler-drawn art!
I already made that joke!
Seth Mcfarlane film turns out to be forgettable and unfunny...what a shock.
Seth Mcfarlane has never been funny.
Comedy is subjective and not everyone finds humor in the same things. I find Seth MacFarlane's comedy funny but I am well aware that other people don't. MacFarlane's comedy is very sketch based using observation and reference humor to convey the jokes. In a sense it follows the tradition of British sketch humor.
You know, I'm watching the review and when Brad brings up how they could have made this a parody of the same sex marriage debate, I kept waiting for them to bring up that this movie came out the same weekend as the Supreme Court ruling ... and then I realized that they recoded mere hours before the ruling happened.
Liam Neeson's presence is kind of funny, but you have to wait for the punch line at the end of the end credits.
When the punch line arrives, it was not worth it and just shows that Seth MacFarlane made a piece of crap with no real sense of comedy efficiency.
This is barely better than A Million... that was the worst thing I saw last year.
Well in my opinion, anything involving Seth Mcfarlane in movies...It's going to be shit...I never liked Ted and I knew Ted 2 was not going to be funny at all... The trailer pretty much save me some $8 dollars, for seeing something I know will be shit... As for Max, well...no...no...I know the whole story without watching it, because any movie that has a dog as the main character, the dog usually ends up dying at the end, which I don't approve of, because I am an animal person, I love cats, I love dogs, Hell even love Bears, big cats, and Komodo dragons! So yeah, not big on family movies that has the dog as the protagonist... Thank you, Sir Jones for saving me money...
It's clear to see Brad is cranky when it comes to the average yearly B-movie trash out there. Me: When I see this stuff, I'm not too hard on it, I can laugh even if I know it's stupid, go home and it's out of life. It's just meh. Not a good movie, not a terrible movie. Bad? Sure, but I'm used to bad. Something like Sisters: Now that shit is terrible!