But Cloverfield is much darker than `98 Zilla movie.
aw man this movie was great!!, it has the dad from malcom in the middle, the guy from kick ass and GODZILLA makes a cameo!!!
but in all fairness i thought the build up was fine in this movie, i even wouldent have minded all the cutting away from the action as long as the final battle was satisfying.. in my opinion it was a bit on the short side. but when ever the big G appeard on the screen he did exacly what i wanted to see in a godzilla movie. so good job murica with this one, and with the final batle... close but no cigar (verry close though).
More like good job Canada, the majority of the movie was filmed in Burnaby, BC, aka every single state in Supernatural. And I believe the majority of the crew, including the director, were Canadian.
I was in the camp that thought this did not have enough Godzilla in it. I was upset how they cut away from every fight except for the last one.
I didn't mind that. I mean Godzilla doesn't show up until the end of the movie for a lot of movies. Hell he didn't get a proper shot in the original film until like the end. Most of the time they cut from all of the destruction, and showed the aftermath.
My biggest complaint wasn't the lack of Godzilla within the story, but how they just teased you with it. In the context of the story there was a lot of Godzilla doing shit. But every time fighting was going on the film was like "Oh, you wanna watch Godzilla fight? Well too fucking bad. Here's Superbad acting in a Jerry Bruckheimer military action flick."
I had a problem with this too, around the 3rd or 4th time they did it, it was really annoying me. BUT I still recommended the movie, because to me, the climax of the film really payed off, and I absolutely loved the new monsters. The fight may have been saved till the end, but there was still some good monster destruction with the Mutos.
I think this is going to be one of those movies where I agree with a large portion of the criticisms of it, but at the end of the day I still had fun with it. The characters really kept me from loving this film, but I did really like it a lot.
I actually thought the lack of godzilla was a good move since that climax became more exiciting, we didnt get exhausted before it was over, alot like JAWS
Or a better comparison is Dredd, set everything up in the first movie and the sequels will blow you away.
So really i think the choice to limit godzilla made the film stronger.
I've got no problem with the choice to limit Godzilla, because that's very much in keeping with many of the other films in the series, and I like a good slow burn when done right. A majority of Godzilla movies are slow burns. But the constant cutting away from action sequences is a tad bit different than a typical slow burn film, or even Godzilla films for that matter, and it was taking me out of the movie quite a bit. I still really enjoyed the film though, but that's a criticism that I completely understand. It didn't make me hate the movie, or even dislike it, but I can't disagree when people bring it up, even though it didn't break the movie for me. If they did that once or twice that would have been one thing, but this movie did that a lot.
Yeah i can see that, and kinda agree.
But i guess everything else in the movie was so well done, to me, like editing, pacing, cinematography, ect that it didn't bothered and only hyped me up. But i do understand the criticism.
And im totally going to go see it again, because man, Godzilla in my theater had the best damn crowd ever, it might as well had been WWE Live. When godzilla pulls that tailwhip and that final radiation breath execution move, you'd think everyone simultaneously orgasmed, and that made the teases so worth it.
Pretty sure a few women left that theater spontaneously pregnant.
Aw man, I totally meant to say Kick Ass, not Superbad. It wasn't a bad flick. It was a very Americanized Godzilla, which is the only way it was ever going to get made. It was inevitable that there would be a slight influence of the disaster-action blockbusters that are always opening in this.
For me, it wasn't the lack of Godzilla that was bothersome. It was the fact that the movie was soooo long (over 2 hours, iirc?) that it seemed like there were hardly any scenes with the big G in it.
The movie probably could have had 30-40 minutes cut from it, and it would have been a much tighter and more coherent flick. And the lack of Godzilla wouldn't have been such an issue.
Saw it late last night..yeah. And the blue balling with Godzilla was easily more frustrating than anything.
"Well, the giant monsters are starting to fight so...Oops. Can't show that. Gotta fuck back off to this boring ass cliche' B-plot and C-plot."
It was a Roland Emmerich film, only without the insanely large cast. But every other cliche in place. Which would have been fine if the leads could give a performance that made me give two shits about them.
Cranston's Joe Brody was the only actor trying, so naturally his part gets cut short. Everyone else was going for "realistic" but came off as flatly subdued
Still, this wasn't half as bad as some other films I've seen lately.
The end fight was pretty nice, with silly self-contradictions here and there ("If the MUTOs emit an EMP within 5 miles, why are your PKE meters working?" "Damn those are some badass flashlights.")
Though I give this movie one thing: It did have the cutest scene I've seen involving an ICBM.
Fucking aye man. I loath this movie with a passion for every reason you just said. The one fight you actually see Godzilla in before the end he gets his ass kicked. The monsters were generic and had no powers. I was expecting them to shoot lightning or send surges of electricity. All they did was cancel out electrical appliances. The actors weren't really all that good either, which sucks because the movie mostly follows the humans. Also killing of the best actor Brian Cranston not even 45 min in is just ridiculous. Honestly I loathed this movie more than most the shit on MST3K and that show has some of the worst movies ever made.
I'm going to watch it on Monday, hopefully. I already know I'm going to love this movie, because Stephanie Zacharek gave it a negative review, and she hates every popular movie I like. :D
Even though I never agree with her, at least she has actual reasons to dislike her movies, and she's not really a snobbish asshole, like Rex Reed and Armond White.
i did kinda wish they focused more on Watanabe's character. I know he's not really involved in much of the action, but he was awesome and, aside from Cranston, my favourite human character...
I agree! I love Ken Watanabe as an actor so it's a shame he was barely given anything to do in this movie. His scientist character could have been a real asset to the plot, but he seemed to spend most of the time looking blankly at the wall and hovering in the background. :(
Do you guys think there will be a sequel? (not including the future Toho Godzilla movies)
Actually they said this would be the last Godzilla movie ever..
John K too bad they already announced Godzilla vs. Hedorah 2
Looks like you're extremely wrong buddy.
Yeah...I believe that just as much as Friday the 13th: The Final Chapter being the last one, or Last Crusade being the last Indiana Jones, etc. etc.
i don't think thats true, they've been talking about sequels and potential pacific rim crossovers.
Edwards only said he wanted to make the film feel self contained but is ok with the idea of a sequel.
because sequel baiting is lame.
That whole "They're doing 'Godzilla Vs. Hedorah 2'" news going around is just tabloid news stuff.
They all reference the same interview with Yoshimitsu Banno. Banno directed "Godzilla Vs. Hedorah" in 1971. There were plans to make a sequel, until the movie actually came out. At which point Tomoyuki Tanaka, a leading producer for ToHo said that Banno "ruined Godzilla" and that Banno would never work on another movie ever again. With the exception of a few jobs as assistant director, Banno hadn't worked on a movie for over 30 years - until being credited as a producer on the new movie.
During that 30 years, however, Banno continued to shop "Godzilla Vs. Hedorah 2" with no success. He gives interviews all the time and has said the same thing he's said for the past 30 years "I'm planning Godzilla Vs. Hedorah 2." The synopsis he gives is the exact same one he gave in 1971. He has no more financing or support now than he did in the 70s when ToHo blacklisted him.
When someone that's not Yoshimitsu Banno says they're working on Godzilla Vs. Hedorah 2 then it might have some credence.
Humor, it is a difficult concept.
I also wished for more Bryan Cranston!
I wanted him in his underwear... It is just not the Bryan Cranston I know and love without him in a of white briefs at some point.
If extraterrestrial means from space couldn't terrestrial just mean from the planet?
Terrestrial animal: an animal that lives on land opposed to living in water, or sometimes an animal that lives on or near the ground, as opposed to arboreal life.
It can fly but it does live on land.
(Just felt like being a smart ass because they even state in the movie when it starts to fly it is not terrestrial anymore when technically it is)
What was the cut about?
Never mind. Saw the end of the video.
Brian, I know you probably don't notice your "like" -mannerism that much, but it starts getting REALLY annoying to listen to after a while. No offence.
Perhaps you should pay for him to take elocution lessons if it bothers you so much.
It's just one of those "once you hear it, you can't un-hear it" type deals
In the trailers, there are mountains in the background behind the Statue of Liberty. So, yeah. Nevada. Enjoyable as always.
Should have started recording that guy at the end. Would have scared the piss out of him.
It's good but it's so color drained and grey it might as well be in black and white. I hate these digitised color pallets.
To me, one of the biggest problems was that the buildup for Godzilla wasn't actually that great. I agree with what Brian said about a lot of the best ones teasing Godzilla and not just spending all the time on showing him wrecking shit, but the problem was they didn't actually build Godzilla up very effectively either. The MUTOs were built up pretty effectively with the opening in 1999, the scene where the flying MUTO emerges from it's chrysalis, and so on, but Godzilla didn't even get an equal amount of focus. The MUTOs got some action scenes before the battle, moreso than Godzilla, and the human characters seemed to barely talk about or react to Godzilla beyond vaguely saying he was embodying nature's desire to balance things out.
Also, if they wanted to make Godzilla a hero like they did in the 70s, I think they should've at least devoted more time to the notion that the military would still view him as a threat. Even in that context he seemed like an after thought, where they were just gonna kill him along with the MUTOs because he was gonna be there anyway. I agree with you guys, however, when it comes to the human drama, the MUTOs, and the few scenes where Godzilla actually did something(aside from the scene at the bridge). The human drama was serviceable post-Cranston, the MUTOs were really cool even though I wish they had shared with Godzilla more, and the money shots were fantastic.
That dude at the end...highlarious...
*Postscript* I meant at the end of this video. I'm seeing the movie on Sunday.
I tend to think the 1998 Godzilla was made for people like me who have never seen a 'real' Godzilla movie, as it was just a silly monster movie and nothing about how the monster looks or acts different to the real thing would be known to me and make me angry.
This one just looked grim and not at all enjoyable as a spectacle from the trailers, but I guess it's worth giving it a chance from what you say.
"Should have just gone into battle with kids strapped to them," reminds me of a cosplay I saw once at Emerald City Comicon. This guy was dressed as Deadpool, and actually had his 6 month old in a chest snuggie, and the snuggie was all done up like it was armor. It's so true, the people holding kids are invincible.
Did you know that guy AT ALL?
The Statue of Liberty was the one in Vegas, yeah.
Godzilla (2014) was definitely a fun reconstruction of Godzilla films and kaiju films in general much like PacRim was a reconstruction of kaiju/mecha films/genre as opposed to the massive deconstruction mind-screw that was Evangelion. Also, at the Golden Gate bridge scene, did anyone else half expect Godzilla to pick up the kids' little school bus and put it on the other side?
I'll agree with that, this film was a really fun reconstruction, and is worth a watch despite it's flaws. It could have been handled a bit better, but it was great for what we got. I actually hope we end up getting a sequel for this one. Personally, I like both reconstructions and deconstructions, and find that they both have their place. I loved both Evangelion and Pacific Rim a lot, and think they're both good for completely different reasons.
Definitely agree that Evangelion and Pacific Rim were great for completely different reasons and the two shouldn't be compared by the same metric which is the trap I think some reviewers fall into nowadays (perhaps always).
Also during Godzilla, there was a moment that made me chuckle and ask in a soft voice, "But did Boomer make it?!" and I'm pretty sure that dog is GONE. As Brad mentioned, a lot of the characters are stock, which is unfortunate but not unexpected (which might be ever more unfortunate). Even so, that third act is worth it, man. Just... damn.
Also @Brad, is there a way to somehow make the "Submit" button the next tab choice after the "Notify me" button? If not, it's no big deal, but I sometimes just instinctively tab to submit rather than use the mouse and always end up selecting some yahoo's website and losing everything in the comment. Again, if not doable, no biggie, but it seems oddly unintuitive. Thanks.
Also also, weirdest stinger ever of all time.
I had fun watching the movie, mostly due to witnessing the 2 guys sitting in front of me reacting everytime the movie shows Godzilla about to fight the Muto, then it cuts to a different scene. One of them even screams:" AWWW FUCK MAN, THIS MOVIE'S TROLLING US!"
Best theater going experience since Breaking Dawn part 2
I think I have to see it again with my expectations in check. Like Brian said, the movie is way more Showa series than the trailers made it look. Godzilla's the hero, which I was not prepared for. I expected for Godzilla to wreck these two monsters, but I also wouldn't have minded Godzilla wrecking OUR shit too.
So, Malcolm dad is NOT turning into Mr. Heisenberg with power of METH and fight off Godzilla? I feel sad.
Jet Jaguar should be piloted by Cranston. Meth Jaguar motherfucker!
"Hey, you wanna get drunk and high?"
Later this month, there has been a confirmation, for a GAMERAmerican film, in theaters. Im looken forward to that, but I HOPE itl be the non kid friendly GAMERA.
Really? Damn I'm totally down for that!
I love the 90's Gamera trilogy where he just fucking destroys Shibuya and they say there's like 20.000 dead people :D
Well.. I think I already know what'll get picked up to make "this review in 5 seconds" later this year... you guys wanna get drunk and high?
thats alot of fish
Speaking of Godzilla and Superman destroying Metropolis in Man of Steel...check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QxFrXYL3EI&t=4m41s
Or simply http://youtu.be/9QxFrXYL3EI?t=4m41s
Hey Brad, you never mentioned about the 3-D.
Is the 3-D any good?
The 3D is ok. It's not bad, it's effective in parts, but it isn't necessary to pay the extra price for it.
Other then rain in a few instances, I didn't notice much depth applied to many scenes, but the 3D wasn't used to the extent it was used in, say, ASM2, for instance. The awesomeness of the movie is awesome enough on its own without forking over an extra six bucks.
I really enjoyed it but the trailer was seriously bullshit and I was expecting this to be Godzilla civilization, another monster shows up, they fight, Godzilla wins then he just kinda fucks off back to the ocean to recover from the fight. I did think it was great fun though. Also the little header at the end when hes heading back to the ocean "Savior of our city" call me petty but that felt really stupid and the gamera theme coulda kicked in there.
I can name all the monsters and their back stories... fork I love Godzilla... but I love Mothra more! Not Mothra Leo though...
You could so market a movie with the word Zilla... "Zilla vs Busta Rhymes"
As for the quickness complaints in the older Godzilla movies. You have remember that those were actors in thick and heavy rubber suits. Their mobility was very limited.
Despite the flaws, as few as there were for me, the climax was great enough to mitigate them. I mean seriously. I've grown up with Godzilla. I've seen almost all of the movies. Aside from Final Wars, what happened in the climax of this movie was one of the coolest fucking things the Big G has done.
That aside, it was a pretty great movie. I could have done with some of the cutaways from Big G during a skirmish, but otherwise it was perfectly fine. G was a bit too fat, but it worked. A lizard should logically not be looking like it ate circa '85 Arnold.
And all the human bits didn't feel draggy, like some "professionals" have waned about. You have to bow to the fact that most all of the Godzilla movies have had more human bits than G bits.
And...Brad, did you notice it too/do you know about it? Early on, they show a poster on Boy Ford's wall that looks like "Godzilla" vs a Gryphon looking thing. And word is, the '98 Godzilla was going to be that. Was this a nod?
The monster fight teasing was pushing it a little, but I enjoyed it overall. Those MUTOs were quite freakish, and it was even a bit better than I hoped/feared it would turn out.
Having Godzilla as the definite good guy didn't bother me as much. Maybe it was his "This planet is MY turf, and I couldn't give less of a shit about these naked monkeys"-attitude.
Seriously, forget the talk about nature and balance. This was a monstrous gang war between a 2-man and a 1-man gang XD
Didn't the first Kaiju attack in Pacific Rim take place in San Fransisco in 2014? Meaning that the timeline would match up exactly with this movie?
I really want to see this crossover happen now, it's too perfect a setup to not take advantage of.
Did you guys notice that when Cranston and Johnson go back to their old house in the quarantine area, there is an aquarium there that says Mothra on it? Nice little shout-out. In any case, I hope that this leads to a sequel or that rumored Pacific Rim crossover. Honestly, while there are a few plot elements that don't fit, this could work as a Pacific Rim prequel if they want to go the crossover route. Hell, they could have the first Jaeger created be called Jet Jaguar.
OMG, that's great.
I was let down when Cranston didn't show up at the end as Jet Jaguar.
looks like you missed your chance at making some new friends, brad.
Godzilla: Cock tease the movie. While I enjoyed the movie quite a bit and by god it was beautiful (and mercifully devoid of shaky cam and over use of quick cutting while fights were actually happening) I'm with most people on the cutting away from every fight until the end. I appreciated the build up but after the 3rd and 4th time of cutting away from a fight I actually audibly barked "oh, come on" in the theater. Thankfully that climax was spectacular and godzilla's epic finisher was a thing of beauty.
Still there was plenty of monster action but besides the climax it's mostly just monsters destroying cities/military people. Still a fun movie and I hope it does well enough to green light a sequel. Maybe the studio can buy the rights to a couple classic godzilla monsters to fight. Still maybe next time cut the running time down to 90-100 minutes and do less cock teasing please.
There was a preview for a movie called "June" at my screening. I've been working on a novel called "Unstoppable Love" for about three years that is the very same story. I wonder if I could sue? Other than that, loved "Godzilla".
"[The human plot in Heisei Godzilla vs King Ghidorah was] Wildly retarded"
For people who haven't seen it, the plot is *spoilers*
evil white people being jealous that Japan is the #1 superpower in the future so they go back in time to manipulate people i nthe present to help them stop Godzilla from being made (they do this by going back to WW2 where we see a pre radiation Godzilla helping japanese soldiers slaughter the evil invading americans in long lingering shots) so they can replace him with their own monster that they control.
Then when they realize they've been had the present day protagonist convinces the one japanese time traveler (who he has the hots for but it is revealed like literally right before she goes back to the future that she's his direct descendant) to betray the white time travelers. Oh and they have a terminator robot who helps them save the day. So they decide to nuke Godzilla's corpse and make a stronger godzilla!
This new Godzilla kills King Ghidorah and then just goes on a rampage so they go back in time again to fix ghidorah and make himn a robot.
I love this movie with all my heart
Not just you. I'd pull stunts like these all the time if I had access to time travel.
I thank you, Brad, for finally teaching me how to pronounce Wanatabe correctly. Apparently, I've been saying it wrong for years. I'm not joking.
Anyway, Wantanabe has the best line in this movie. At one point, he says, "Just let them fight," and I thought, "YES! Just let the monsters fight, and let us see it!!!"
Overall, the movie was decent, but not quite what I'd hoped it would be.
Eh, I'll still take what I can get.
I saw this movie with my awesome Godzilla T-shirt and my Godzilla slippers and it was the most comfiest time I had in a theater. I went to see it yesterday in 3D and the 3D wasn't working, but we didn't realize that until a girl that worked at the theater was passing out coupons for a free movie just because the 3D wasn't working. So while watching the movie, we were all wondering why is the 3D in this movie looking so flat. Now I know why.
Anyways, I went into this movie with very high expectations and when it should have met my expectations as a Godzilla movie, I stepped out of the theater kind of disappointed, but I really had to sit down and have a long talk with myself as to why this was a good Godzilla movie and that I knew that the movie was going to be different. I think what happened was that I watched too much of Pacific Rim and it spoiled me with all those fights in the movie. So anyways, I need to go see it again, but before that I need watch some Godzilla movies to unspoil myself.
This movie suffers from the same problem as Man of Steel. It really wants me to care about what's going on, but the characters are so bland and boring. Both movies had awesome fight scenes and a super climax, but that's not enough to watch it ever again. :)
I liked this movie a lot. It wasn't perfect. It hits and emotional high point at the very start, when Cranston re-inacts Wrath of Kahn with his wife. After that I don't give a shit about the characters.
But hey, Godzilla blew shit up and fucking borrowed King Kong's classic finisher and 1-uped it. What's not to like their?
I did enjoy this movie a lot but I thought it was underwhelming. I think I hurt my expectations by comparing it to pacific rim though. I'm going to see it again with the mind set they had and I may enjoy it better. I'm surprised they haven't talked about the Badass bus driver the one who plowed through the military barricade on the golden gate bridge and save those kids
I think the major flaw in this movie is that it's trying way too hard to make us care about Lieutenant Whats-his-name and his wife and kid. All three of them are completely boring. I'm not kidding about Lt. Whats-his-name. I just saw the film and I can't remember any of their names.
The "slow burn" is fine, but if you do that you need to give me a reason to stay interested. Maybe they could have explained why Godzilla was there in the first place. Maybe instead of the All-American Soldier trope they could've teamed up Cranston and Watanabe and had them talk about what Godzilla is and why he's around and mixed *that* in with the shots of military and Mutos going around.
Amen to that. There was so much missed potential with Brian Cranston and Watanabe's characters.
After his wife's death, Cranston has a PERSONAL INVESTMENT in the plot. We got to know Cranston's character. We saw the moment his life changed forever. We WANT him to find out the truth behind her death. But then he just....died. Nothing really came of his character, apart from getting his bland son involved in the plot (which wasn't necessary imo because Cranston was already a serviceable protagonist) :/
And the problem with Cranston's son is that he doesn't really give a crap about what's going on. He doesn't care about his dad's theories, or the monster battled, or whatever. He just wants to get home to his wife and kids. And that's not very interesting for an audience to watch. The movie has to force "heroic" moments into the plot just to show how great this guy is (e.g. the pointless scene where he saves the Asian kid on the train).
I would have LOVED to see him team up with Watanabe to come up with a plan to overcome Godzilla and the Mutos. They were both far more interesting characters than Mr. All-American Soldier.
Thought everybody might enjoy this:
They should scrap the Batman/Superman movie, and make a movie where Superman teams up with Godzilla. I would pay to see a movie like that, just to see the amount of collateral damage they could rack up together.
If anything, Godzilla's presence would minimize the collateral damage since he isn't the one constantly destroying buildings on purpose.
True. You should totally follow the Youtube link of Axel a bit above here.
True. He'd be like "Dude, come on, tone it down a little bit. You're being a little dramatic with the concrete smashing"
You have to zilla as the lesser of three evils, and that he's only there because the muto are there in the first place. You can't expect him to tiptoe between buildings. He's a huge animal. He isn't a hero because he wants to be a hero. He's a hero only through our perspective. Godzilla sees the entire earth as his territory. For him it's just "These guys are parasites, they gots to go".
Superman though, I dunno. It's kinda the same thing, being that he's only fighting because he has to, but he's not a big beast driving off territorial instinct like Godzilla. He could have taken it "outside". By outside, I mean in the fucking woods.
I used to watch Super Scary Saturday. That used to be on TBS until 1990. Grandpa Munster and Elvira were the first two horror hosts I saw as a kid. Al Lewis even had a reunion with Butch Patrick, Yvonne Decarlo and the girl that played Phyllis. Excellent show, the only time I saw the original 'Williard' with Bruce Davison on television.
I'm more of a Gamera fan myself. I mean who wouldn't love a flying turtle? "Gamera, Gamera. Gamera is really neat, Gamera is full of meat, we all love Gamera!"
Hell, overall, I enjoyed it. Godzilla looked great, the acting was great (Bryan Cranson, no shit), and I didn't see one faux pas relating to the big guy. That, I am thankful for.
Godzilla had his powers, and people did not destroy him (kudos to the tease though). People were helpless for the most part, and that's just the way I like it. The ending was spot on.
At first, when the fighting started, I also felt the "quit cutting away dammit", but the more it progressed, the more I understood what they were trying to do with it, and the more it didn't bother me. So from my perspective, it didn't take anything away from my experience.
I think they were trying to put the battle on the "ground floor" sorta speak. A lot of peripheral style shots of the fight, and a sort of symbolic duality between Godzilla and Ford. Granted, I do think they overdid it a wee bit too much, but for all the things they stuck true to, I'm satisfied.
Hey Brad, I just saw the movie and I'm in 100% agreement with everything you said (needs more Cranston). I hated that little kid in the cap though, the movie did not need a useless stupid little boy subplot. But it's a good movie.
Anyway when you and Brian saw this did people laugh when Ken Watanabe explained who/what Godzilla was? When he said "Gojira" people in my theater started laughing and I have no idea why.
Sadly, I think it's a case of good ol' fashioned racism.
Everyone in my cinema laughed when Watanabe said "Gojira" too, and when I questioned my friends (who also laughed) about it, they said they laughed because his accent is funny sounding :(
woah wait what's up with the post credit scene? this reminds me of drunk girl in Bruno Mattei show
The 2001 music sounded amazing in the trailer, I am so glad to hear it's in the actual movie.
I like you but WOW,
Now you are worried about how you are perceived by web viewers who happen to see you in a screening?? Are you the next Jay Sherman?? Please get over yourself.
The irony is that later you are worried that you have the rep for saying 'It stinks' about the last few films ... Who knows, maybe you can join a cast of a re-vamp of 'News Radio' (post Hartman like)
Yes, I am saying you are turning into a caricature of yourself :P
Is this comment a joke?
Worrying? I'm fairly sure Brad only mentioned the viewers seeing him in the screening because it's pretty funny that they saw him get up and leave after only a minute or so. I didn't realise an internet critic simply acknowledging that they have viewers is enough to define them as an egotist now.
Sigh. It was a joke dude. Chill.
Thank you, thank you, thank you! I have been dying to watch this movie since it opened on Thursday and have been asking my customers if they have seen it (I'm guessing New Zealanders aren't that arsed about Godzilla). But I completely agree with the Godzilla money-shot of him rising up and just screaming at the camera as that was epic; having seen it on a review on 3-News and with both of you commenting that the 'closing door' scream is not in the movie was good to hear as that was the only annoying thing I found about the trailer.
But I am afraid I have to stop there as I need to go and see this before you get to too many of the spoilers.
I will honestly raise my hand and say that I only ever saw the Roland Emmerich 'Godzilla', which completely put me off the real Godzilla altogether. However I find it surprising that it never put me off the Godzilla animated series. I now want to watch the originals now, so thanks for pointing out that in reality Roland didn't really make a Godzilla movie, more that a giant Iguana took a scroll through New York City movie.
Thank you to Team-Snob as your constructive, well thought out, and well researched discussions are the reason I continue to watch the site. Keep it up!
Bland characters aside, I liked this a lot more than Pacific Rim. Aside from Idris Elba's character and Mako Mori, all the other characters in that were bloody annoying, which as you suggest in the video is worse than having bland characters. Godzilla was slower, with some boring bits, but my gods Pacific Rim did everything it could with its annoying characters to make giant punching robots not as fun as it should be.
I would maintain that people with super strength on a par with Godzilla, facing off against similarly powered people, have limited options for lowering collateral damage just like him, though I'll comdemn them more because of lack of human intelligence.
This may be blasphemy, but I actually prefer the 90s Godzilla movie.
It might have been an awful Godzilla flick with stereotypically silly characters, but at least it wasn't bland like the 2014 movie was. The 2014 movie had an amazing final fight scene, but the character were so dull that I almost fell asleep in the cinema.
A so-bad-its-good movie is better than a bland/dull movie.
Hey Brad did you watched Redd Inc. (or Inhuman Resources) its a horror movie from 2012 and very enjoyable flick. I greatly recommend it, check it out.
I wish they had more Gary Chalk in this movie. I was shocked when I saw him next to Bryan Cranston because I forgot he was in this movie.
Although I don't think he died, so who knows, maybe he'll be back for the sequel.
-In all fairness, though... I just got home from Godzilla and am getting drunk and high, so......
u ready for blended brad? u can take brian or irving with you in order to cheer u up
Despite some flaws, Godzilla '14 was a fun movie for me. It's above most of the bad blockbusters that came out in the past 2 decades.
Please stop referring to the character in Man of Steel as Superman. His name is Lucifer the Great Deceiver.
I prefer to call him 'The egotistical whiny idiot that couldn't take his fights away from innocent bystanders' or TEWITCTHFAFIB' for short.
Eat your heart FLDSMDFR :p (not ripping too much on a franchise I adore)
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LOL@Muto's glowing nut sack :)
Actually, it was an egg sack. A womb if you will.
Wasn't Godzilla in Godzilla 2000 Junior from Godzilla vs Destroyah. Which is why his atomic blast was red and not blue like his father because he was revived by his remains.
No. Godzilla 2000 was the dawn of the Millennium cycle of films, which are a different continuity from the Heisei or '90s cycle. So he's not Junior I'm afraid.
The big MUTO looks very similar to Big Red from the NES Godzilla Creepypasta. I wonder if that was the idea...
Also, Monsters wasn't his first disaster thing:
And yes, that is my account. Only video on there.
I found the movie to be mediocre. It took far too long for any real action to happen. They took far too long to use Godzilla’s atomic fire blast, and to only use it twice, to me, was appalling. They cut out Bryan Cranston’s character way too soon. He should've been in 90% of the movie, interacting with Ken Watanabe’s character through the majority of it, instead of the meager 5% he got. The movie was just okay to me. I liked the look of the monsters, including Zilla himself, but the mix between human story telling and monster battles was like oil and water. It just didn’t seem to mix well. I give the new Godzilla movie a 2.5 out of 5. If sequels are to come from this I hope they will improve all these major flaws I found in this movie.
I agree with this.
I kept expecting Bryan Cranston's character to come back, but nope.
WTF, he just dies?
Also not enough Godzilla/fighting.
To me it was a satisfying experience. 3.5/5
When Godzilla used atomic fire, I had a fangasm. They really built it up.
I do wish Godzilla's story was more developed.
Nice review. I just want to give a shout-out to "Giant Monsters All-Out Attack" (2001), which is my personal favorite Godzilla film. I highly recommend it.
Unrelated to Godzilla, but I just had to mention this. Brad, take a look at the trailer for this fucking movie.
That looks godawful. I'm guessing it won't get a theatrical release, but you and Jake have to watch and review it.
I like how the review doesn't start until 20% of the way in.
Just like how Godzilla doesn't show up until halfway into the movie.
This is probably the first time I watched a movie before seeing your guys' review of it (heck I hardly looked at any reviews only skimmed the ending paragraph of one just get an idea of how good it was going to be, mainly because I wanted to walk into this movie fairly fresh.
I agree with you guys, the movie was very good. I take you guys didn't see the 3D version like I did (didn't really add a whole lot too it but I thought the 3D was passable). I sat there for a while thinking when's he going to use his atomic breath and about a minute later I see the spines starting to light up and I was filled with childish glee.
Brian, I too watched that version of Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah about a day or two ago because my life demanded that I see time travel shenanigans and giant monsters beat the living heck out of each other. I've been watching some this week and earlier this year in preparation for this movie (I mainly prioritized ones I had yet to see or haven't seen since they were last aired on Sci-Fi).
I went into the movie expecting a disaster flick anyway (since that's what the movie was marketed as + hearing of Godzilla being an extensive metaphor for the nuclear bomb in passing), and I loved the shit out of it.
It is a grim movie, but actually grim and mature instead of the really overdone grimdark DC "grim". It's disaster porn and yet it doesn't feel totally gratuitous or overdone. The tropes for the characters are there but they're not stretched to the point of obnoxiousness or being caractures. The movie has a lot of restraint. It builds, it's moody, it has atmosphere. It really manages to nail down the feel of these monsters being forces of nature that humans are merely puny ants towards.
I felt like the writers respected the audience. They didn't need to use exaggerated stereotypes or overdo the scenes. It could've so easily been another Transformers or Day After Tomorrow, but they took the hard way instead of going the easy, more marketable way out.
It'd be a great double-feature with Pacific Rim. Both movies really feel like they have massive respect for the subject matter and their audiences.
Also, was I the only one who noticed that Andy Serkis is credited for performance capture for this movie? I squealed like an idiot during the credits...
Godzilla was a great. He is very much the hero in this movie instead of some thoughtless brute. The structure of the film is very reminiscent of the Showa Era Godzilla series. This is one of the best versions of Godzilla in a long time so I am quite happy with everything.
You know Brad, if you want that badly to direct Toxic Avenger, and you're fine with modern musicals, why don't you just try to get the rights to a production of the Toxic Avenger musical in Springfield? You'll be free to work in practical effects, you can go as raunchy as you like (heck, the mayor gets her tits out on stage and does a musical number about giving the scientist a blowjob to find Toxies weakness), and you can make Joke review it for us.
I'm of the mindset that there are two kinds of movie-goers who'll go see this movie and have different expectations. I'll call these two the "Ridley Scott Alien" group and the "James Cameron Aliens" group.
If you're a "James Cameron Aliens" movie-goer, you love action and carnage right off the bat (no build up, no surprises or nothing for you, just like having the action almost immediately with a few breathers here and there for development), you're more than likely not going to love this movie. If you're a "Ridley Scott Alien" movie-goer, you're a more patient person who loves a nice slow burn but so long as it has a good pay off at the end, you're most definitely love this film!
The pacing of Godzilla, interestingly, isn't at all like an old Showa era film but it feels more like a 70's-80's Spielberg film (a few of my friends and I all agreed the pacing of how much they show Godzilla is almost beat for beat EXACTLY like that of Jaws or Close Encounters of the Third Kind). I'm glad they took the semi-dark route the Heisei Godzilla films did because the Showa era had some of the worst Godzilla films in the franchise. I can't think of a single Heisei film I hated.
I think most people like some build up but still want a good amount of action too.
There is a healthy medium between the two extremes you're talking about.
I'm sure there are but I haven't heard any of their opinions online or anywhere else just yet.
All I hear mostly is, "There wasn't enough Godzilla, this movie sucks" or "This film was amazing, even if Godzilla doesn't have most of the screentime".
If you think Aliens has "no build up, no surprises", boy were we watching different movies.
It's been a while since I saw that film, the only surprise I can think of was the Queen Alien but even then they hinted at her existence early enough in the film (and aside from the heel-feet and the oversized head she wasn't too different from the other xenomorphs).
My point still remains that the pacing of that film is radically different from Ridley Scott's original film. Aliens is more a fast action Sci-Fi film where Alien was a slower Sci-Fi Horror story
Interesting that you brought the Alien movies into it, because I thought that some scenes were actually kinda reminiscent of those films. :D
That fine gentleman who approached you at the end made a valid point, Brad. Who wouldn't want to get drunk and high?
I like to think that was the same guy that approached you during that one episode of the Bruno Mattei show.
Am I the only one who thought of the MUTOs as a cross between Orga (from Godzilla 2000 Millenium) and Mothra? It didn't strike me as original, but I really liked the design. And the pacing and the story was very much straight from the 70's ones. The eery nuclear holocaust parts reminded me of the first one. It's great at working in all those different references to the source material and present it in a fresh yet familiar way and its really beautiful to look at. (and thankfully without excessive shakycam/closeup/jumpcut bullshit) I was also kinda taken out of the movie by the teasing and the cookie cutter disastermovie storyline with the humans, but it also didn't get to a point where it ruined it for me. The main dude's cartoonish luck and superhuman resilience was also a bit much. The final battle and celebration of the king was really fun and kinda moving for me, I got the feeling that there was a lot of love for the series, it was certainly worth it even if I can see where people are coming from when they say it's a tad short on Godzilla himself. I really want to see where the next one takes it and I'm certainly content with paying full price, Brian is totally right, the whole visual and acoustic experience alone is worth it. Thanks for getting me to go see it, I was planning on passing on this one until I saw your review! Thought this could only be a disappointment, but boy was I wrong.
I was kinda lukewarm toward this movie. I wasn't overly fond of the plot, very few of the characters were particularly engaging. Most of the characters seemed sort of superfluous, like they were their either just to get out exposition (for example, Ken Watanabe) or were there to be threatened for dramatic purposes (Elizabeth Olsen). I would've liked more Godzilla, but I think I'd have been ok with the amount we got if the humans had been more interesting.
I loved the design of Godzilla, I loved his animation, I loved how he sounded, and I loved his shear size. My only complaint about Godzilla's design is that his atomic breath seemed a little anemic. The build-up was sweet, and I felt a thrill as he did it, but I was hoping it would be more. I was less enthralled by his motivations. I like Godzilla best when he's being the unstoppable force of nature, not the hero. Why, precisely is he hunting the giant bugs? He doesn't eat them, so it's not for nourishment. The bugs are largely content to go about their business until Godzilla starts wrecking their shit. All we get is a bit of vaguery by Ken Watanabe about "the balance of nature."
I also didn't like how...frail...Godzilla seemed, I know that's a weird thing to say, but Godzilla spent a good chunk getting his ass kicked. Again, I like Godzilla as an unstoppable juggernaut.
All in all it was an ok movie, but I was largely disappointed.
Oh, I did like the fact that the main character was an EOD technician (personal conceit), I was less enthused by the idea that apparently in that universe EOD techs know how to jury rig nuclear weapons to detonate. EOD techs are trained to disassemble nukes and remove the explosive components, not anything to do with enabling or disabling nuclear detonations.
I think canstons son should of died, that way he would of lost both a wife and a son and made for a much deeper and more dramatic film. Also Godzilla is in the tittle of the movie, why was 75% of this movie following the military and sidecharacters? What the fuck?
Saw this one this afternoon. This is what we should have gotten 16 years ago.
Can I just point out how amazing the parents are at being parents in this film are?
I mean, that one girl on that Hawaiian beach just sort of walked away from her mom, and the woman didn't even notice. Same applies for the Ford and the Asian kid, who just sort of walks away from Ford, even though the kid was, literally, in front of him.
But besides that, the movie is great. Other than the brain dead tactics the military use during the movie. Like parking Arleigh Burke class destroyers right next to each other IN GODIZLLA'S path or blocking traffic on the Golden Gate bridge just to park tanks on the bridge, even though most of the bridge is still open for traffic to keep moving. Great movie, though.
If we learned anything from 911 its that when a building collapses pulverized concert fills the air making it difficult to see so we are lucky we saw the monsters at all...just saying...
Speaking of 911, did you notice in this movie that it's okay again to have planes flying into buildings? :D
I liked the part where Godzilla seemed more concerned about the well being of San Fransisco and it's people than Superman was of Metropolis.
Also, the Halo Jump scene with the 2001 music would've been enough for the trailer. Amazing scene.
Godzilla vs. The Smog Monster is actually my favorite Godzilla movie. The monster from this new movie sounds like Hedorah actually, if all the different evolutionary phases existed at the same time. And now that I think about it, that should have probably been a thing in the actual Godzilla vs. Hedorah movie. Oh well, I guess they fixed it.
Hey Brad, i was looking on the AMC website and looked at the classics series. This is what they are showing...
Back to the Future: May 28th
Raiders of the Lost Ark: June 4th
Saturday Night Fever: June 11th
Dirty Dancing: June 18th
The Godfather: June 25th
The Godfather Part II: July 1st
Do you plan on heading to any of these?
Oh and i also saw that this is coming to my AMC theatre. I don't know if your getting it or not. Just curious...
Just saw the movie. It's okay. I just found my self to be kinda bored in the middle of the movie. But the last part made up for it I guess. I also felt that Bryan Cranston should have had a larger part and have been in the movie for a longer time.
I don't Know if any one noticed but, in the casino part they actually show Godzilla in the small tv smashing buildings and u see it stomp on the building then the power goes out and he brakes in i think it added to that part
This was a HORRIBLE film....
no characters and a lame godzilla.
Hell even the 1998 version is about 25 times better...
Seriously this film licked balls, zilla balls.
How exactly is the Godzilla in the 98 movie so much cooler than this one?
I meant the 1998 film was better, not godzilla itself.
Im kinda neutral on that, 98 zilla wasnt big enough and this was was too fat and just looked weird.
The other parts in this zilla flat out suck though the 98 one had several redeeming qualities, it didnt make me fall asleep during the human parts etc...
Perhaps better off not feeding the trolls.
Besides your opinions on the movie not meshing with my view I think this isnt a very good review. You guys hardly talk about the film, dont mention what you liked or hated about it and kept it VERY general...
Im used to better from you guys, was it just brain being too much of a fanboy and brad not wanting to hurt his feelings?
Reshoot this guys maybe watch it with the entire group.
I think The Eagles said it best:
Get over it
Get over it
All this bitchin' and moanin' and pitchin' a fit
Get over it, get over it
I just saw the movie today and made sure not to read or watch anything about it beforehand besides a trailer here and there..
I was a bit disappointed with this Godzilla movie considering (aside Bryan Cranston and Juliette Binoche) I did not give a shit about any of the other human characters. To me, there wasn't much to them. In fact, I don't even remember their names.
The "lack" of Godzilla in the film didn't bother me as much as the teasing of "hey maybe we'll get to see Godzilla fight something now". The scene where people are running into what looked like a subway system and the doors close right when Godzilla is fighting one of the other monsters nearly made me get up and yell "Oh come on!" at the screen.
Atomic fire breath made the boring human scenes worth it though..
I probably wouldn't watch it again.
i though godzilla looked a bit like clint eastwood
i enjoyed this yea i will agree with most not enough godzilla acting in this was ehh at times ex for Bryan Cranston and Ken Watanabe both were really good i mean yea it did not show godzilla until last 3rd of the movie but thats how the orginal one was so i can respect that this is easly one of my fav movies of year so far along with the wolf of wall street
Why did Towlie show up at the end?
Agree/disagree with Brad about Zilla '98.
On one hand I don't like that movie at all, yet the creature design is actually pretty cool. In fact, I believe if they hadn't called it "Godzilla" a lot of people would've been saying "heh, he kinda looks like Godzilla" without any anger what so ever. Personally I feel Zilla would fare a little better than King Kong.
Speaking of, Brian may have joked, but this one is eerily similar to the 98' one. From the opening credits explaining his origin to the point where they fry the baby monsters then the adult staring down the so called "heroes" as if to say YOU! YOU DID THIS!
Still, good movie. Though I sincerely hope the sequel has more Godzilla action, better lead characters & absolutely NO CUTAWAYS!!!
I had more fun making this movie then I did when I worked on Godzilla's Revenge… and I agree Brad, Zilla '98 > Revenge.
I thought the movie was great. The teasing didn't bother me much. The Hawaii fight was the only thing that really bothered me because that was the first meeting that you normally get where they square off a bit and then the opponent runs from Godzilla. It's a thing that normally happens in Godzilla films and this one wasn't allowed to happen on screen. I thought the climax was amazing. It was probably the most brutal thing Godzilla has ever done to an opponent. This attempt was a success for me. It hit most of the criteria for a Godzilla film, and Godzilla himself looked great.
i just saw the part after the end of the video... is that a thing that normally happens in america, people going up to cars and asking if they wanna get drunk and high? because that's awesome