This sucks balls!!
... BOO! Get off the stage, ya bum!
Coincidentally, I was watching Dorkly's hilarious Top 5 video on the series and its censorship this morning! The things they put on the show will make your head spin more than the movie!
I have mixed feelings about this one. While the fight scenes themselves were good, the plot didn't flow very well. Frieza never really feels like a threat, he gets dominated the entire fight then gets two quick cheap shots in, and it gets undone instantly with a Whis ex machina.
I'm also getting tired of Goku being the one that fixes everything. One of the reasons Cell is my favorite saga is because it's the only one where Goku doesn't finish off the villain. Whis is right, I want to see him and Vegeta yank their heads out of their asses and work together. And the fact that they're unwilling to do so is kind of a discontinuity. They've literally FUSED INTO ONE ONE PERSON, you can't get more cooperative than that. And if we can't get that team up, I would have seen Vegeta be the one to beat Frieza. Frieza is very much HIS villain, he blew up his freakin' planet.
The comedy was good though. 18's line "he's so cool" had the whole theater laughing.
The movie also seems to weirdly build up to a lot of things that never happen, as if the script went through some last minute changes.
It seemed to really build up to an ending where Goku and Vegeta work together that never happens, the way they made sure to say they only had one senzu bean left made me think Frieza would get it, they brought up Gohan's heart stopping, which is a completely new thing they've never had to deal with before, so I thought it might lead to the same thing happening to Goku, but they never really do anything with it.
Wasn't the point of Vegeta's bingo dance that he was essentially offering up his pride to Beerus to have everyone be spared? Or maybe that was just in the extended cut? I know the extended cut removed a lot of smaller character beats.
ERRR, meant that the extended cut puts in smaller character beats that the theatrical cut put in.
IIRC right after Vegeta basically kicks himself mentally over doing that but thought it was necessary.
Lotta little bits like that, like the rock paper scissors scene with Yamcha and Oolong
Vegeta might have begrudgingly agreed to do that if Bulma told him to, but it would never suddenly occur to him like it does in that scene, it wouldn't even compute. It's the fact that Vegeta IS willing to completely sacrifice his pride for the good of his friends but Goku is NOT that's a complete reversal of character that doesn't make sense.
I seriously thought Dragonball Z had run its course years ago, like early '00s. Didn't realize it was still popular. Old junior high friends wouldn't shut the hell up about the series. So, I tried to watch one episode. Quickly turned off the TV.
That's the thing though: if you're new to the series then you probably shouldn't start with one of the episodes, because you'll be lost. You should start with one of the movies, because they're all self-contained stories, and you can follow that.
You still may not have liked it, but that would have given you a better chance of liking it.
I give major props for being able to release a video today that's from the far future of August 12th
This reminds me of SF Debris reviewing the Evangelion Rebuild movies without having seen NGE. [All hail Colonel Penguinfucker!]
I also felt that frieza was never really a threat to goku or vegeta. The thing that turned me off about the movie was the audience commentating through the whole movie.
Brad, if you wanna get to know DBZ in a less painful way than watching the show, you should check out Dragon Ball Z Abriged done by Team Four Star. They're great and you won't have to torture yourself by waiting hours to see a battle conclude! It does include a great Mr Popo too!
I can second this. Everything they do is Golden.
To add to that, here's an example of their work. I really hope Sarah gets to see this. I think she'd like it.
Yes, Brad you need to watch abridged. Its damned funny and makes the show bearable. That and I love abridged's nappa.
See, I don't agree that everything TeamFourStar did was golden. I like what they did with the movies and the latter Android and Cell Sagas, but I pretty much skipped some of the early episodes and more than half of the Namek/Frieza Saga. The humor had been more miss than hits, but with time I've come around to enjoying their work. That said, I don't believe Abridged is the best introduction for Brad: I'd find DragonBallZ Kai is a more stremlined approach that will best for him the catch up. I've only seen one full episode of Kai, but I've seen the original series enough times to still remember small details even after not seeing it for about 13 years.
I didn't watch DBZ as a kid, and DBZA is so good that I can't watch the regular anime without thinking that the voices are wrong.
So when you seeing shun the sheep?
Blah blah, porkslope, blah, turkeyhandle, blah blah atari dumbledore.
What these movies felt like to me were advertisements for the anime that is now running, like hey look at what we are doing here, we got some DBZ but if you want more on this you're going to have to watch the anime! It's been known since before the first episode of Supers aired that they were going to incorporate the movies into the anime's story line. I liked them in so much that I missed Dragon Ball Z.
I was happy for Pissy Dave's return, although he had the right to be pissed at Fantastic four. The best thing about that movie was the Thing burger tie in at Denny's. Brad, if you get a chance I highly suggest you do the thing burger for a Brad tires episode :)
You and Sarah should go to Attack on Titan live action. Or take Dave to it =)
AH! AH! AH! WHAT!? No! Impossible! It can't be! What power!
I'm pretty much in the same camp as Brad when it comes to Dragon Ball Z, except I know a few chunks of the plot and some of the characters from common anime knowledge and the few episodes of both the original and the abridged series I've seen.
The only movie I've ever seen was Battle of the Gods one weekend at my college Sci-Fi club. I thought it was very funny, and I can understand why people would watch them.
Tl;dr - I'd watch the DVD of this the next time everyone around me is drunk. It'll probably be funny.
Oh, please, it's DBZ, what's the spoil? :P
Was this in theaters? I literally saw no trailers for it, and I haven't been keeping up with movies lately, so I wouldn't know.
The space cop was Jaco from "Jaco: Galactic Patrolman" a short manga series that ran in Shonen Jump by the creator of Dragon Ball. Apparently he's appeared in some of the shows or movies or something.
It was good! :D
Why is Sarah calling it a CARTOON! It is an ANIME!!!
Anime being the Japanese word for 'cartoon' ;)
To Japanese culture, everything animated would be classified as Anime: From Mickey Mouse to Bugs Bunny, even Scooby-Doo.
Also, just to let Sarah know something she was confused about: All the soldiers Frieza brought with him to Earth ARE NOT Ginyu Force members. The Ginyu Force were a five-member team of Frieza's Elite Soldiers: The ones we saw were all normal soldiers for Frieza's army, and they are so weak that even Krillin and Pre-Super Saiyan Gohan could take out two of them; Krillin, the weakest of the Z-Fighters, so it not so unbelievable that Tien & Master Roshi could take on hundreds of soldiers and hold their own.
Sarah the thing about you finding Goku out of character is that there is a stark difference between american Goku and Japanese Goku. What you saw in battle of the gods was a more Japanese style, japanese goku is selfish and pridefull american goku is the happy go lucky i'm gonna whip your ass for great justice kind of guy.
and since this was more directly written by akira toriyama it was closer to the japanese version and they werent gonna fuck with it. back in the day once the bought the rights to it the dub they would change it aroud to make it more appealing to western audiences.
Ye the Mega Man guy is based on a comic Toriyama did after Dragon Ball and takes place before Dragon Ball. Ironically the guy meets up with small child Bulma as well.
The frog was Captain Ginyu?
I enjoyed this movie for what it was… well, I enjoyed the fight scenes and the comedic moments, anyway. Outside of fan-service, though, it really is a story that didn't need to exist. I mean, if they're going to bring Freeza back at least have the heroes joke about it like they did in "Yo! Son Goku and Friends Return." "As strong as Freeza? Not much of an opponent anymore. The kids'll be fine!" THEN when Freeza unveils his new power the heroes can drop their fudge and attempt to take him a bit more seriously.
I don't know, I think that's a big reason why I liked "Battle of Gods" more BECAUSE Goku faced an opponent he wasn't able to beat which certainly gives him the incentive to keep improving and a goal to reach. Otherwise you just fall into the same tired formula: strong guy appears, kicks everyone's ass, hero powers up, beats strong guy, new strong guy appears, etc.
Though, really, if they're going to have Freeza come back and train for 4+ months to get stronger, at least SHOW him training! Come on! I want a cheesy, 80's style training montage!
If Goku can have the fist of the dragon, I want Freeza to have the eye of the tiger! XÞ
(SIDE NOTE: #18 is still an android. The dragon was unable to turn her back into a human, so they opted to wish for her and her brother, #17, to have their bombs removed… a plot point that "Dragon Ball GT" recalled, if I remember correctly.)
Tickets for Resurrection Space Xerces keeps selling out here in NOLA. Got my tickets though, super excited
I have no idea what anyone in here is talking about.
I'm going to back away slowly.
Brad is only here because the old DBZ reviewer used to be Jake.
Mike: "Oh the humanity. . ."
Crow: "Oh the JAPANITY!"
Did Jillian not want to go to this one, or did you go because it was a Patreon video? I know Jillian has semi-retired from the Midnight Screenings, but I thought she'd make an appearance for this one, as she went last time.
Wasn't aware that Sarah was as big an anime fan or at least knew as much stuff.
Not surprised that most of the movie is a fight scene. That's pretty much DBZ in a nutshell. Often fights would last multiple episodes, the original fight between Goku and Freiza was especially notorious for that. This has even led to a joke. How many DBZ characters does it take to change a lightbulb? Just one, but it takes about 12 episodes to do it.
I liked watching the series when I was younger. My mom didn't get it. She was like "it's nothing but fighting", I was like "yeah, that's the point".
To answer some questions: the frog guy and his crew are all new characters for the movie. The thousands of dudes that they have attack the Z fighters are all just nameless cannon fodder (I'm assuming, they might've hidden a few easter egg guys in the background).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdrlALQVEKM thats all
If you're wanting to rewatch the series and not be a pirate or spend hundreds of dollars, I think DBZ is on Hulu (Free Hulu, no less) with nearly 200 episodes.
As a mainstream free service that doesn't really sell itself on anime, for some reason Hulu has an extremely large selection of it.
Come on lassie, be a filthy pirate! Yo ho, yo ho, pirates watch for free!
I have to skip this movie, I'm just too insulted by the idea of Frieza returning. The first time that Goku defeated Frieza was a huge deal because Goku was fulfilling his destiny as the legendary Super Saiyan, avenging the destruction of his homeworld and his people, and destroying a horrific false idol. If you bring Frieza back, doesn't that undermine his victory just a little bit?